Strike Day Timetables

[peter166]

When are strike day timetables likely to be published and loaded onto the National Rail Journey Planner?

 

[Bald Rick]

For the first strikes it should be just before the Easter hol.

 

[infobleep]

If you go to Recent Train Times and search for individual dates around the end of January, you can get an idea of what ran.

For example, put in Haywards Heath and Gatwick Airport for 30/01/2024 and nothing will show up.

There may be differences this time but it will give you a rough idea in advance.

The Web site is https://www.recenttraintimes.co.uk/

 

[dk1]

Usually around a week or so beforehand.

 

[rubin]

Depends on different companies, 5-7 days before the actual date if my memory is right

 

[sjm77]

So Northern and TPEx are on strike today so the only trains running along the CLC route via Warrington Central are those of EMR. Except they do not appear to be stopping at their normal intermediate stations of Liverpool South Parkway, Widnes and Warrington Central. Why is this? Why can EMR trains not stop at Widnes when Northern train drivers are on strike. RIDICULOUS.

 

[JonathanH]

Why can EMR trains not stop at Widnes when Northern train drivers are on strike. RIDICULOUS.

Presumably, concern over potential passenger numbers.

 

[sjm77]

So it is the "we must close Deansgate at Christmas becuase people might want to us the train" mentality. Brilliant.
However, Transpot for Wales are stopping at Warrington Bank Quay today, there isn't a panic that they are now the only service connecting Warrington and Manchester today so they better not just in case!

 

[The Planner]

So it is the "we must close Deansgate at Christmas becuase people might want to us the train" mentality. Brilliant.
However, Transpot for Wales are stopping at Warrington Bank Quay today, there isn't a panic that they are now the only service connecting Warrington and Manchester today so they better not just in case!

Look at the bigger picture first. You already know that EMR are the only service between Lime St and Manchester today, running once per hour and expected to take ALL of the passenger flow between the two. On a normal Saturday there are 3tph to Piccadilly and 1tph to Victoria. What you are asking is for 4tph worth of trains to fit into 1tph and deal with the intermediate stations. Granted they could try and maximise capacity with longer trains, but they might not be able to do so. So what has been said above is logical, its going to be unsafe and likely impossible for people to get on or off at intermediate stations. Warrington to Manchester is not comparable in passenger numbers to this scenario which only gets 2tph on a normal Saturday to Manchester anyway.

 

[sjm77]

Look at the bigger picture first. You already know that EMR are the only service between Lime St and Manchester today, running once per hour and expected to take ALL of the passenger flow between the two. On a normal Saturday there are 3tph to Piccadilly and 1tph to Victoria. What you are asking is for 4tph worth of trains to fit into 1tph and deal with the intermediate stations. Granted they could try and maximise capacity with longer trains, but they might not be able to do so. So what has been said above is logical, its going to be unsafe and likely impossible for people to get on or off at intermediate stations. Warrington to Manchester is not comparable in passenger numbers to this scenario which only gets 2tph on a normal Saturday to Manchester anyway.

I would say your first argument is partially correct. As people cannot travel onto Leeds etc or make other connections in Manchester the total number of passengers today will be reduced from the normal '4 trains per hour' that is normally necessary. However the EMR is still likely to be over crowded I do agree. With reagrds to Warrington (both stations) there are normally 5 trains per hour to Manchester though, not two.

 

[The Planner]

I would say your first argument is partially correct. As people cannot travel onto Leeds etc or make other connections in Manchester the total number of passengers today will be reduced from the normal '4 trains per hour' that is normally necessary. However the EMR is still likely to be over crowded I do agree. With reagrds to Warrington (both stations) there are normally 5 trains per hour to Manchester though, not two.

You were talking about Bank Quay, which on a Saturday has two and will still have nowhere near the demand as Liverpool has to Manchester.