SWR Metro fleet permanent withdrawals

[Siemens Staines]

455854 is back in service for the first time in over 3 months;

Realtime Trains - 2J51 1736 London Waterloo to Hampton Court

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As indicated by "WarrenTManager" in #73, 455905 has returned to service

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On the down side, there are a few units that appear to have been out of use for nearly a month

455850 (10/11)
455864 (10/11)
455910 (11/11)
456004 (08/11)
456007 (11/11)

but perhaps it is too early to describe these units as long term out of use?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

455854 is back in service for the first time in over 3 months;

Realtime Trains - 2J51 1736 London Waterloo to Hampton Court

Realtime Trains is an independent source of live realtime running information for the Great British railway network.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

As indicated by "WarrenTManager" in #73, 455905 has returned to service

Realtime Trains - 2D15 0854 London Waterloo to Guildford

Realtime Trains is an independent source of live realtime running information for the Great British railway network.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

On the down side, there are a few units that appear to have been out of use for nearly a month

455850 (10/11)
455864 (10/11)
455910 (11/11)
456004 (08/11)
456007 (11/11)

but perhaps it is too early to describe these units as long term out of use?

Thanks for this.

I believe the SW 455s are the only NR stock remaining to have destination display blinds instead of LED displays?

(Unless you are revoltingly pedantic and include the EMR 153s to be withdrawn this week and the single remaining non PRM-lite 153/9)

 

[TEW]

There is some shuffling around of stock in the new timetable next week to attempt to alleviate some of the Suburban stock shortages. Some mainline 450 services go down from 12 to 8 coaches, with the displaced 450s used on Reading and Windsor diagrams. The use of 450s on Windsor diagrams should then free up some 455s to reduce the number of short formations on the Mainline side.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Wednesday, December 8th 2021
Updated list


455701 Operational with SWR
455702 Operational with SWR
455703 Operational with SWR
455704 Stopped, out of miles
455705 Operational with SWR
455706 Operational with SWR
455707 Operational with SWR
455708 Long-term out of use
455709 Operational with SWR
455710 Operational with SWR
455711 Operational with SWR
455712 Operational with SWR
455713 Operational with SWR
455714 Operational with SWR
455715 Operational with SWR
455716 Operational with SWR
455717 Operational but low on miles
455718 Operational with SWR
455719 Operational with SWR
455720 Operational with SWR
455721 Operational with SWR
455722 Operational with SWR
455723 Operational with SWR
455724 Operational with SWR
455725 Long-term out of use
455726 Long-term out of use
455727 Operational with SWR
455728 Operational with SWR
455729 Operational with SWR
455730 Operational with SWR
455731 Operational with SWR
455732 Operational with SWR
455733 Operational with SWR
455734 Long-term out of use
455735 Operational with SWR
455736 Stopped, out of miles
455737 Operational with SWR
455738 Operational but low on miles
455739 Operational with SWR
455740 Long-term out of use
455741 Operational with SWR
455742 Operational with SWR
455750 Operational but low on miles

455847 Long-term out of use
455848 Long-term out of use
455849 Operational with SWR
455850 Long-term out of use
455851 Operational with SWR
455852 Operational with SWR
455853 Operational with SWR
455854 Operational with SWR
455855 Stopped, out of miles
455856 Operational with SWR
455857 Operational with SWR
455858 Operational with SWR
455859 Operational with SWR
455860 Operational with SWR
455861 Operational with SWR
455862 Operational with SWR
455863 Operational with SWR
455864 Long-term out of use
455865 Operational with SWR
455866 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
455867 Operational with SWR
455868 Operational with SWR
455869 Operational with SWR
455870 Operational with SWR
455871 Operational with SWR
455872 Operational with SWR
455873 Operational with SWR
455874 Operational with SWR

455901 Operational with SWR
455902 Operational with SWR
455903 Operational with SWR
455904 Operational with SWR
455905 Operational with SWR
455906 Operational with SWR
455907 Operational with SWR
455908 Operational with SWR
455909 Operational with SWR
455910 Long-term out of use
455911 Operational with SWR
455912 Operational with SWR
455913 Long-term out of use
455914 Operational with SWR
455915 Operational with SWR
455916 Operational with SWR
455917 Operational with SWR
455918 Operational Goes off-lease Feb 22
455919 Operational with SWR
455920 Operational with SWR

456001 Long-term out of use
456002 Operational with SWR
456003 Operational with SWR
456004 Long-term out of use
456005 Long-term out of use
456006 Operational with SWR
456007 Long-term out of use
456008 Operational with SWR
456009 Operational with SWR
456010 Operational with SWR
456011 Operational with SWR
456012 Operational with SWR
456013 Operational with SWR
456014 Operational with SWR
456015 Operational with SWR
456016 Operational with SWR
456017 Long-term out of use
456018 Long-term out of use
456019 Operational with SWR
456020 Operational with SWR
456021 Operational with SWR
456022 Operational with SWR
456023 Operational with SWR
456024 Operational with SWR

458501 Operational with SWR
458502 Operational with SWR
458503 Operational with SWR
458504 Long-term out of use
458505 Long-term out of use
458506 Long-term out of use
458507 Stored awaiting transfer to Widnes
458508 Operational with SWR
458509 Operational with SWR
458510 Operational with SWR
458511 Operational with SWR
458512 Operational with SWR
458513 Operational with SWR
458514 Operational with SWR
458515 Operational with SWR
458516 Operational with SWR
458517 Stored awaiting transfer to Widnes
458518 Operational with SWR
458519 Operational with SWR
458520 Operational with SWR
458521 Operational with SWR
458522 Long-term out of use
458523 Operational with SWR
458524 Operational with SWR
458525 Operational with SWR
458526 Operational with SWR
458527 Operational with SWR
458528 Operational with SWR
458529 Long-term out of use
458530 Operational with SWR
458531 Operational with SWR
458532 Operational with SWR
458533 Operational with SWR
458534 Off-lease
458535 Long-term out of use - awaiting parts
458536 Operational with SWR

707001 Transferred to SouthEastern
707002 Transferred to SouthEastern
707003 Transferred to SouthEastern
707004 Transferred to SouthEastern
707005 Transferred to SouthEastern
707006 Transferred to SouthEastern
707007 Transferred to SouthEastern
707008 Transferred to SouthEastern
707009 Transferred to SouthEastern
707010 Transferred to SouthEastern
707011 Transferred to SouthEastern
707012 Transferred to SouthEastern
707013 Transferred to SouthEastern
707014 Operational with SWR
707015 Operational with SWR
707016 Operational with SWR
707017 Operational with SWR
707018 Operational with SWR
707019 Operational with SWR
707020 Operational with SWR
707021 Operational with SWR
707022 Operational with SWR
707023 Operational with SWR
707024 Operational with SWR
707025 Transferred to SouthEastern
707026 Transferred to SouthEastern
707027 Transferred to SouthEastern
707028 Transferred to SouthEastern
707029 Transferred to SouthEastern
707030 Operational with SWR


List denotes the current status of SWR's Metro / Inner-Suburban fleet as of 8/12/2021, according to information sourced by forum members.

Class 450 and Class 701 units are not shown as these will remain with SWR permanently
Class 450 and Class 458 units are planned to be withdrawn from Inner-Suburban duties

Currently, 0x Class 701 units are in service

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Any updates anyone might have, please do let me know so I can include them in the next update.

 

[Pep and co]

I've noticed 458522 is now 'long term out of use' in the latest update. Can anyone give a current location and further details regarding this unit please?
Thanks in advance for any information

 

[Platform 2]

I've noticed 458522 is now 'long term out of use' in the latest update. Can anyone give a current location and further details regarding this unit please?
Thanks in advance for any information

Saw it parked at the back of Wimbledon depot on 1/12/21.

 

[Pep and co]

Saw it parked at the back of Wimbledon depot on 1/12/21.

Thanks for the info. Could you give me a more precise location and somewhere it can be seen from without trespassing.

 

[WarrenTManager]

455854 is back in service for the first time in over 3 months;

Realtime Trains - 2J51 1736 London Waterloo to Hampton Court

Realtime Trains is an independent source of live realtime running information for the Great British railway network.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

As indicated by "WarrenTManager" in #73, 455905 has returned to service

Realtime Trains - 2D15 0854 London Waterloo to Guildford

Realtime Trains is an independent source of live realtime running information for the Great British railway network.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

On the down side, there are a few units that appear to have been out of use for nearly a month

455850 (10/11)
455864 (10/11)
455910 (11/11)
456004 (08/11)
456007 (11/11)

but perhaps it is too early to describe these units as long term out of use?

All those are stopped for scheduled exams. 5864 and 6007 currently over the pits in progress, the others waiting their turn.

I've noticed 458522 is now 'long term out of use' in the latest update. Can anyone give a current location and further details regarding this unit please?
Thanks in advance for any information

8522 was waiting a wheelset. It has arrived. It just needs a slot in the lift shop timetable for fitting. It's hidden behind 5704 currently on 21RD in the Engineers sidings at the Park so you can't see it.

 

[Goldfish62]

There is some shuffling around of stock in the new timetable next week to attempt to alleviate some of the Suburban stock shortages. Some mainline 450 services go down from 12 to 8 coaches, with the displaced 450s used on Reading and Windsor diagrams. The use of 450s on Windsor diagrams should then free up some 455s to reduce the number of short formations on the Mainline side.

Makes perfect sense. Reading services are already around 40% 450 on weekdays and could currently probably get away with 100% if the capacity of the 458/5s are needed elsewhere.

 

[Pep and co]

All those are stopped for scheduled exams. 5864 and 6007 currently over the pits in progress, the others waiting their turn.

8522 was waiting a wheelset. It has arrived. It just needs a slot in the lift shop timetable for fitting. It's hidden behind 5704 currently on 21RD in the Engineers sidings at the Park so you can't see it.

Cheers saves me making an unnecessary visit back to WD. Top advice as always.

 

[pompeyfan]

A post on Twitter implies that Allelys will be road hauling 2 units to Long Marston. I’ll try and find the tweet.

 

[Wyrleybart]

As a matter of interest, 455834 showing off lease on the list, has it been involved in serious damage ?

TIA

 

[Nogoohwell]

Daft question:
With 6 456's out of action, why have they not taken a working DMSO from one unit and connected it to a working DSO of another? Surely out of the 12 coaches, SWR can cobble together at least 2 working units?

 

[43096]

As a matter of interest, 455834 showing off lease on the list, has it been involved in serious damage ?

TIA

No, it’s out of miles to C4 overhaul.

 

[swr444]

Daft question:
With 6 456's out of action, why have they not taken a working DMSO from one unit and connected it to a working DSO of another? Surely out of the 12 coaches, SWR can cobble together at least 2 working units?

Apparently all 456's to be withdrawn in feb

A post on Twitter implies that Allelys will be road hauling 2 units to Long Marston. I’ll try and find the tweet.

https://twitter.com/stefanchybowski/status/1468813189370503168

 

[Nogoohwell]

Apparently all 456's to be withdrawn in feb

https://twitter.com/stefanchybowski/status/1468813189370503168

Thanks @swr444 Either SWR expect to fix/approve the 701's and train enough drivers to be able to operate them inside 2 months or we are going to be very short on units!

You never know, SWR could be hedging their bets that there will be another lockdown in Feb and no one will be using the railway to notice. Sorry did I say SWR, I mean DFT.

 

[Goldfish62]

Thanks @swr444 Either SWR expect to fix/approve the 701's and train enough drivers to be able to operate them inside 2 months or we are going to be very short on units!

You never know, SWR could be hedging their bets that there will be another lockdown in Feb and no one will be using the railway to notice. Sorry did I say SWR, I mean DFT.

Plan B should help in the short term.

 

[swr444]

4 8 car 450s transferred over to the Windsor side from today. 3 on Windsor’s and 1 extra on reading services.

 

[pompeyfan]

4 8 car 450s transferred over to the Windsor side from today. 3 on Windsor’s and 1 extra on reading services.

It did seem silly running 12s around on Alton’s, Basingstoke’s and Pompeys off peak however the drop in capacity during PM rush hour won’t be appreciated.

450s on Windsor’s is an odd choice, especially with the amount of stations they call at, and their door cycle not being the quickest.

 

[Goldfish62]

450s on Windsor’s is an odd choice, especially with the amount of stations they call at, and their door cycle not being the quickest.

Until the 707s were introduced they were the standard stock on Windsor services and they're used extensively on Hounslow loop and Weybridge services which have even more frequent stops.

 

[swt_passenger]

Until the 707s were introduced they were the standard stock on Windsor services and they're used extensively on Hounslow loop and Weybridge services which have even more frequent stops.

I don’t suppose they’ll be re-arranging the interiors and binning first class this time though…

 

[Bigfoot]

455726 leaving Wimbledon Park by road today.

 

[Pep and co]

455726 leaving Wimbledon Park by road today.

Anyone get any pictures of 455726s final departure from WD?

 

[swr444]

Until the 707s were introduced they were the standard stock on Windsor services and they're used extensively on Hounslow loop and Weybridge services which have even more frequent stops.

I was going to say the same, the Windsors are better to have the 450s as it's a "semi-fast" service, and to keep the 458s mainly on the weybridge/hounslow services as the doors are much quicker with all the stops that they have.

 

[BRblue33]

455726 leaving Wimbledon Park by road today.

Reported that it's go'ing to LM.

 

[150249]

I was on 458531 on Saturday from London Waterloo to Reading. It didn't run very well and kept stalling.

 

[swr444]

I was on 458531 on Saturday from London Waterloo to Reading. It didn't run very well and kept stalling.

you sure there wasn't low adhesion on the line?

 

[Bigfoot]

I was on 458531 on Saturday from London Waterloo to Reading. It didn't run very well and kept stalling.

you sure there wasn't low adhesion on the line?

Saturday was slippy for me so I'd say probably likely.

 

[150249]

you sure there wasn't low adhesion on the line?

Could've been but I took 458524 on the way back and it was much smoother.