SWR Metro fleet permanent withdrawals

[Andy1673]

These are the formation changes at Waterloo. Mostly increases but a handful of reductions.


1A15 0753 Waterloo - Alton 12-450 vice 8-450
1W17 0835 Waterloo - Weymouth 10-444 vice 9-444/450
2L21 0912 Waterloo-Basingstoke 12-450 vice 8-450
1P23 0930 Waterloo - Portsmouth Harbour 12-450 vice 10-444
2L29 1112 Waterloo - Basingstoke 12-450 vice 8-450
1A29 1123 Waterloo - Alton 12-450 vice 10-444
1W23 1135 Waterloo - Weymouth 10-444 vice 9-444/450
1A33 1223 Waterloo - Alton 12-450 vice 8-450
1P39 1330 Waterloo - Portsmouth Harbour 5-444 vice 10-444
1W27 1335 Waterloo - Weymouth 10-444 vice 9-444/450
1P41 1400 Waterloo - Portsmouth Harbour 12-450 vice 5-444
2L43 1442 Waterloo - Basingstoke 12-450 vice 10-444
1A45 1523 Waterloo - Alton 12-450 vice 8-450
1P47 1530 Waterloo -Portsmouth Harbour 10-444 vice 5-444
2L47 1542 Waterloo - Basingstoke 12-450 vice 8-450
1W33 1635 Waterloo - Weymouth 10-444 vice 9-444/450
1P53 1700 Waterloo - Portsmouth Harbour 10-444 vice 9-444/450
2B53 1720 Waterloo - Southampton Central 10-444 vice 8-450
2Y57 1815 Waterloo - Fareham 12-450 vice 10-444
1A57 1825 Waterloo - Alton 12-450 vice 10-444
1W37 1835 Waterloo - Weymouth 10-444 vice 9-444/450
2L09 1841 Waterloo - Basingstoke 12-450 vice 8-450
1A59 1853 Waterloo - Alton 12-450 vice 8-450
1P61 1900 Waterloo - Portsmouth Harbour 9-444/450 vice 10-444
1W79 1905 Waterloo - Weymouth 10-444 vice 9-444/450
1B65 2005 Waterloo - Bournemouth 10-444 vice 5-444

2P14 0523 Portsmouth Harbour - Waterloo 9-444/450 vice 8-450
1B90 0540 Poole - Waterloo 10-444 vice 9-444/450
1B18 0555 Poole - Waterloo 10-444 vice 9-444/450
1P16 0610 Portsmouth Harbour - Waterloo 12-450 vice 10-444
1A16 0641 Alton - Waterloo 12-450 vice 10-444
1T22 0650 Portsmouth Harbour - Waterloo 10-444 vice 8-450
2P92 0710 Havant - Waterloo 12-450 vice 10-444
1A20 0744 Alton - Waterloo 12-450 vice 8-450
1B26 0801 Poole - Waterloo 10-444 vice 9-444/450
2L26 0854 Basingstoke - Waterloo 12-450 vice 10-444
1A28 0944 Alton - Waterloo 12-450 vice 8-450
1W12 1003 Weymouth - Waterloo 10-444 vice 9-444/450
2L34 1054 Basingstoke - Waterloo 12-450 vice 8-450
1P36 1115 Portsmouth Harbour - Waterloo 5-444 vice 10-444
1P38 1133 Portsmouth Harbour - Waterloo 12-450 vice 5-444
2L42 1254 Basingstoke - Waterloo 12-450 vice 8-450
1W20 1303 Weymouth - Waterloo 10-444 vice 9-444/450
1A42 1315 Alton - Waterloo 12-450 vice 10-444
1A46 1415 Alton - Waterloo 12-450 vice 8-450
1W24 1503 Weymouth - Waterloo 10-444 vice 9-444/450
2L58 1654 Basingstoke - Waterloo 12-450 vice 10-444
1A58 1714 Alton - Waterloo 12-450 vice 8-450
2L60 1724 Basingstoke - Waterloo 12-450 vice 8-450
1P62 1733 Portsmouth Harbour - Waterloo 10-444 vice 5-444
1P68 1915 Portsmouth Harbour - Waterloo 10-444 vice 9-444/450
1W74 1920 Weymouth - Waterloo 10-444 vice 5-444
2L72 2025 Basingstoke - Waterloo 12-450 vice 8-450
1P74 2033 Portsmouth Harbour - Waterloo 8-450 vice 10-444
1A72 2044 Alton - Waterloo 12-450 vice 8-450

Wow. Thanks!!!

 

[4SubAsociation]

Managed to ride both the Class 455 with the Ex 210/457 carriages today. I also managed to get a photo of the pair at Waterloo too.

 

[Sun Chariot]

Managed to ride both the Class 455 with the Ex 210/457 carriages today. I also managed to get a photo of the pair at Waterloo too.

Marvellous, great capture

 

[nctd2306]

Looks like somehow, from today's timetable change, the Reading line has gained another 455 service in the evening, 2C71 off Waterloo (21.50 to Bracknell) used to be a 450 formed off a Portsmouth service but today is showing as 455s 730/864
So much for reducing their use on the Windsor lines

 

[Goldfish62]

Looks like somehow, from today's timetable change, the Reading line has gained another 455 service in the evening, 2C71 off Waterloo (21.50 to Bracknell) used to be a 450 formed off a Portsmouth service but today is showing as 455s 730/864
So much for reducing their use on the Windsor lines

They're back on Sundays as well.

At this rate the Reading line will be converted entirely to 455 as everything else goes over to 701s.

 

[nctd2306]

I see that the usual Reading all day 455 diagram starting with 2C07 is a 450 today, is this a permanent change or will it be back to 455s next week?

 

[TEW]

Back to 455s next week. It's still not a normal service in operation today and tomorrow.

 

[spark001uk]

Conversely, one of the sheppy diagrams this week is 455s and ends on 1S77 woking via staines (normally 444 or 450). Whenever I catch that I see a lot of late-nighters on it queuing for the toilets, so they're going to have a surprise!

 

[nctd2306]

Back to 455s next week. It's still not a normal service in operation today and tomorrow.

Ah that's a shame, just in time for my return to the office

 

[GW43125]

Evening all, does anyone have a list of which 455s have been withdrawn for good please?

 

[WarrenTManager]

5704 5722 5726 5736 5740
5847 5855
5907 5917 5918
81 left.

 

[GW43125]

Thanks Warren, much appreciated.

5704 5722 5726 5736 5740
5847 5855
5907 5917 5918
81 left.

 

[OneTrackMinded]

458532 is the next to leave

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

458532 is the next to leave
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This one’s been stood down for a bit now.

 

[mansonlo49]

458532 is the next to leave
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is the move to long Marston on RTT yet? thanks

 

[47444]

5704 5722 5726 5736 5740
5847 5855
5907 5917 5918
81 left.

Thanks for this. Is it possible to confirm that status/location of these?
I think (?):

• 5704 and 5726 at Long Marston
• 5740, 5847, 5855, 5907 and 5918 cut by Sims Newport
• 57822, 5736 and 5917 unsure

Can anyone help?

TIA

 

[WarrenTManager]

Thanks for this. Is it possible to confirm that status/location of these?
I think (?):

• 5704 and 5726 at Long Marston
• 5740, 5847, 5855, 5907 and 5918 cut by Sims Newport
• 57822, 5736 and 5917 unsure

Can anyone help?

TIA

I don’t think there are any 455s at Long Marston.

5722 went to Newport
Half of 5917 went to Newport half went to Beeston someone told me.

 

[Siemens Staines]

After 6 months out of service with its corrosion repairs in Kilmarnock, 455904 has finally re-appeared in one piece today albeit heading to Bournemouth for further work to be undertaken?

Realtime Trains | 5Z55 0508 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D | 21/01/2025

Real-time train running information for 5Z55 0508 departure from Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D on 21/01/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Goldfish62]

After 6 months out of service with its corrosion repairs in Kilmarnock, 455904 has finally re-appeared in one piece today albeit heading to Bournemouth for further work to be undertaken?

Realtime Trains | 5Z55 0508 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D | 21/01/2025

Real-time train running information for 5Z55 0508 departure from Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D on 21/01/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

That 455s are still having corrosion repairs undertaken speaks volumes about the 701 (non) roll-out. You'd expect that by this stage anything with significant corrosion requiring attention would be junked.

 

[GW43125]

Thanks for this. Is it possible to confirm that status/location of these?
I think (?):

• 5704 and 5726 at Long Marston
• 5740, 5847, 5855, 5907 and 5918 cut by Sims Newport
• 57822, 5736 and 5917 unsure

Can anyone help?

TIA

5736 was carted off to Newport for the chop in two batches some time in the 2nd quarter of 2022-I have dashcam footage somewhere of it passing me on the M25!

 

[Milo T.K]

theres a video on instagram where a 43 was being scrapped at sandbach with 458 coaches in the background

 

[WarrenTManager]

is the move to long Marston on RTT yet? thanks

No. Date isn't confirmed yet. The unit is tied up ready to go and FOC have been engaged to plan it. I'd reckon a fortnight.

 

[mansonlo49]

thanks

No. Date isn't confirmed yet. The unit is tied up ready to go and FOC have been engaged to plan it. I'd reckon a fortnight.

 

[SEtrains]

theres a video on instagram where a 43 was being scrapped at sandbach with 458 coaches in the background

Indeed. Those coaches have now been scrapped.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Indeed. Those coaches have now been scrapped.

74426 was from 458 517, so one of the first to be reduced to 4 car.

How many of the other removed carriages have already been scrapped?

 

[reddragon]

Indeed. Those coaches have now been scrapped.

what a waste of good coaches!

 

[Goldfish62]

what a waste of good coaches!

Non-standard trailer coaches with no toilet or cab. No point in letting them sit around unused and rotting, which is what would have happened otherwise.

Although given how well the 701 non-introduction is going maybe they could have been used to reform 458/5s.

 

[The_Train]

Indeed. Those coaches have now been scrapped.

Are these the ones that were removed as part of the /4 conversion project?

 

[DanNCL]

Are these the ones that were removed as part of the /4 conversion project?

Yes. Ex-460 vehicles.

 

[The_Train]

Yes. Ex-460 vehicles.

Thought that would be the case considering the scrapping location after they had been dumped at Stoke for a while. Cheers for confirming