Pyewipecarshed
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Two new Volvo BZL single-deckers in the yard at Hyde Road, couldn't get an identification for them
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TfGM Bee Network - fleet discussion
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mayneway
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Yes there are penalties for dirty buses, the issue is the larger depots like Ashton are owned by TFGM and the equipment in the depot is down to TFGM to maintain, so chances are the wash is broken and unlike previously when stagecoach would simply call out an engineer, it’s now got to go through various departments to get the OK to get any work done or even call an engineer out.
Ashton is going through works to electrify the depot so maybe the wash is currently not accessible.
Darren Hayward
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Many of the GNW Mercedes single deckers are still in Diamond colours are they being earmarked for replacement
TT-ONR-NRN
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Haven’t seen any nasty B9s on the 38 Logistics lately. Are they finally history for this route?
Mind you, the green interior Stagecoaches are HORRENDOUS.
Mind you, the green interior Stagecoaches are HORRENDOUS.
KendalKing
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Should be six of them, they are due to be number VMS361-366
MCRTransitYT
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The O530s still have a good 2 years of service if they follow the 15 year rule. 4 years for O295
Class 466
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Volvo BZL deliveries are well on track so thankfully the B9 usage is dropping fast. Yeah I'm not crazy about that interior, just looks dirty and aged regardless of whether its clean or not.
toms
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If they are staying they’ll probably commence refurbs soon, StreetDeck painting is done, now it’s just refurbing remaining already painted StreetDecks, same with the e200s just need interiors done. Another evoSeti has been painted yellow but with its interior done aswell and needs to return to Denton for inspection before being used on 163 at Heywood.
47550
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I thought TfGM had announced the 163 is getting electrics ? Or is this a temporary situation ?
Leyland Bus
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This was mentioned earlier up the thread yet I've never seen or heard any announcement whatsoever... I can happily live under a rock at times, so if I've missed it then okay but I think this is a case of Chinese whispers...
toms
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It never was announced that’s why. The only ones ‘confirmed’ by TfGM was 98, 471, 472/4, 475 etc.
Leyland Bus
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Then that's the answer... Chinese whispers.
mayneway
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That would make sense, Queens road is currently being electrified and it’s expected the batch of E100’s will now come to Queens for 475/477/487 etc.
toms
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Wow I didn’t think it would happen this soon but that’s great to hear
darylyates17
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Guess free bus will get E100s as well.
Class 466
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There’s only 4 E100s for Bury locals (the strata work). Free bus due some of the surplus displaced BZL Single Deckers originally intended for Stockport which aren’t going to Metroline or Middleton.
47550
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I noticed it in the agenda pack for the October 24 GM Air Quality Commission - page 104.
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toms
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Thanks for sending this, been looking everywhere for it. Just a note, it’s weird to not see that the 469 Bury - Tottington service is not a service to be electrified as it does go through the A58 Bolton Street in Bury, which the other services listed do. Didn’t know the 135 was due to be electrified but it’s nice to see.
darylyates17
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Clears that up then I wonder where the Strata’s will go then as I thought Queens Road were keeping them
xitz2012@gmail
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That's a shame, I've been rather enjoying the E400MMCs on the 98. Do we know yet what double deck EV's (if any) have been ordered for Queens Road?
mayneway
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I’m sure they will still sneak on there but 97/98 and 135 will all go electric as they interwork at present.
WWH44L
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A quick look at Thornton’s facebook page shows a number of Bee Network vehicles in for refurbishing.
GNW 3062/4/7, 6157/62, 6246. (3067&6157 have since returned)
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GNW 3062/4/7, 6157/62, 6246. (3067&6157 have since returned)
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Thornton Brothers, Ashington, Northumberland. 2,935 likes · 67 talking about this · 98 were here. Excellence in Bus Refurbishment, Commercial Vehicle Collision Damage Repairs & Refinishing
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mayneway
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Given how much time they spend off the road hopefully the scrap yard!
I’d imagine they will replace some of the E200’s so will be used on 90/94/480/149 etc.
The freebus is a funny one because apparently since Stagecoach started using deckers on them, patronage has actually gone up so they will probably want full size singles or doubles on there rather than mini’s.
toms
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Do we know what stage Queens Road Depot is at in terms of electrification, or has it got a while to go until anything EV can operate out of it
mayneway
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They are putting the cabling in and fitting the sub station at the moment.
Stan Drews
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Some of those vehicle requirements seem very high eg. 20 for the 471. Looking at the timetable I can’t see the PVR (Peak Vehicle Requirement) being more than 16, so having 4 spare would be very excessive, especially for new buses. Am I missing something, or is this just part of the movement towards public sector thinking?
toms
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Electrics don’t last all day you know.
MCRTransitYT
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They should be going to Diamond Eccles, replacing solos
Stan Drews
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If that’s the reason, that will add significant operational costs, so let’s hope TfGM have deep pockets, especially if that’s being replicated across the area.
Many other cities seem to cope without having huge spare capacity added in.
Glasgow have done the same with their airport route pvr of 7 with 3 spare that's the diesel buses they have ordered 11 electric buses for the route with no improvement to the timetable so that will leave 4 spare