according to a list i have Queens to get 13175 to 13179 and 13181Just spied a Bee Network liveried Volvo B8R MCV single (24 plate) on delivery running down the A6, Chapel St at 15:00...
Also, the first 5 former Oxford B5s are now garaged at Queens, 3 two tone red ones and 2 blue ones. Annoyingly, phone had gone flat, so no pics or numbers...
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Lucy Michela
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All the hire-ins, which 21367 is, will just get stickers. They'll leave Manchester once all the brand new stuff for SC arrives
jonesy3001
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How many new buses are they expecting?
Leyland Bus
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For anyone wanting photos etc it appears that Stagecoach is using Man Utds car park N3 as some sort of staging area prior to the big move around on Sunday morning...
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Looks like Go North West withdrew around 30 single deck vehicles last night so I can imagine the deckers will be putting a shift in today!
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Bustimes.org shows that several vehicles intended for the North Manchester Bee Network, where actually used yesterday on School work in Bolton and Wigan by Stagecoach, namely:-
13161 BN61NWE Volvo B5LH Wright Gemini - Ex Go North West
13162 BN61NWF Volvo B5LH Wright Gemini - Ex Go North West
13175 OE62ZRD Volvo B5LH Wright Gemini - Ex Oxford Bus Company
15390 YT59DYY Scania N230UD OmniCity Decker - Ex Go North West
19231 MX08GKN ADL Enviro E400
19250 MX08GNF ADL Enviro E400
19256 MX08GNU ADL Enviro E400
19261 MX08GOC ADL Enviro E400
84209 LF24YZH BYD D8UR -DD ADL Enviro E400 City Electric Bus
13161 BN61NWE Volvo B5LH Wright Gemini - Ex Go North West
13162 BN61NWF Volvo B5LH Wright Gemini - Ex Go North West
13175 OE62ZRD Volvo B5LH Wright Gemini - Ex Oxford Bus Company
15390 YT59DYY Scania N230UD OmniCity Decker - Ex Go North West
19231 MX08GKN ADL Enviro E400
19250 MX08GNF ADL Enviro E400
19256 MX08GNU ADL Enviro E400
19261 MX08GOC ADL Enviro E400
84209 LF24YZH BYD D8UR -DD ADL Enviro E400 City Electric Bus
MasterSpenny
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According to buslistsontheweb.co.uk, this trio has been registered as the following.The first one of Stagecoach’s new Enviro 200 MMCs for Bee Network services in Manchester have been sighted at Hyde Road. Photo - not mine.
Stagecoach 37633.
Stagecoach Manchester: 37633 (YX24 PGF) an Alexander Dennis Enviro 200 MMC, painted in all yellow Bee Network livery and captured here not long after delivery and parked up at the back of Hyde Road Garage whilst having the blinds programmed and tested. © Christopher Lowe. Date: 18th March 2024...www.flickr.com
37631 - YX24PFZ
37632 - YX24PGE
37633 - YX24PGF
Out of curiuosioty, given when this post was made, and the date of when the below photo was taken, could this have been the Evora in the below photo? (not my photo)
Stagecoach 21420.
Stagecoach Manchester: 21420 (BV24 LRZ) an MCV Evora bodied Volvo B8RLE, painted in all over yellow Bee Network livery and captured here parked up inside Stagecoach Manchester's Hyde Road Garage just after delivery. © Christopher Lowe. Date: 22nd March 2024. Ref No: PICT44730/CL.
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Leyland Bus
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Yes, I'd say soAccording to buslistsontheweb.co.uk, this trio has been registered as the following.
37631 - YX24PFZ
37632 - YX24PGE
37633 - YX24PGF
Out of curiuosioty, given when this post was made, and the date of when the below photo was taken, could this have been the Evora in the below photo? (not my photo)
Stagecoach 21420.
Stagecoach Manchester: 21420 (BV24 LRZ) an MCV Evora bodied Volvo B8RLE, painted in all over yellow Bee Network livery and captured here parked up inside Stagecoach Manchester's Hyde Road Garage just after delivery. © Christopher Lowe. Date: 22nd March 2024. Ref No: PICT44730/CL.
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I think this info comes from tests as the E400s are still on the normal Stagecoach list and at the time of the bee network record 19250 was on a 119. Also, most are on the 938 and a 1041X class bus actually tracked on the service so I would think someone was setting up the new ticket machines and using live services to test them. The same applies to the 665 tracking; these buses did not track, but another schools fleet bus actually tracked on those timings. I think we will get quite a few false readings as I have seen quite a few buses not tracking and BN61NWE and NWF were both working for Go North West on service 41 today.
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Leyland Bus
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I was going to say, no GNW vehicles will transfer to Stagecoach until 2am so the info on Bustimes is false.
It’s sometimes worth actually clicking on the record and seeing if the bus actually plotted a map. If it just tracked stationery in the depot, then it wasn’t in service
Those people who change BusTimes never do these checks as they want to just be the first to change the fleetlists
Those people who change BusTimes never do these checks as they want to just be the first to change the fleetlists
Leyland Bus
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Quite impressive seeing lines of E400MMCs in yellow heading along the M602 just now, obviously heading to Oldham...
Lucy Michela
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Think this was just them testing the trackers. If you open the maps of the their journeys, its either empty or a short trip in the yard
Stagecoach tracking is live. I repeat, Stagecoach tracking is live.
Didn't even know they were doing this as well, but two 24-plate Solo SRs are in there. Had no idea they were getting new SRs
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Incredibly happy to see some 58 & 09 plate E400s made it to Queens Road for a short while at least
Highland050261
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There's a few Solo SR on order for Various depots.
Lucy Michela
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They're just not showing on buslistsontheweb and that's confusing me with them it seems
Highland050261
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Buslistontheweb will take few days to update. I believe these are all the new buses on order for now across Stagecoach.
Taken From Stagecoach Bus Handbook 2024.
Enviro400:
11798/9, 11801-80: Manchester
Volvo B8RLE/MCV:
21417-32: Manchester
Enviro200:
37631-3: Manchester
Mercedes Sprinter/Mellor Strata:
44901-4: Manchester
ADL Enviro100 EV:
46001-2: Ayr
46003-12: Kilmarnock
46013-18: Glenrothes
46019/20: Perth
Optare Solo:
48101-4: Ardrossan
48105-11: Lillyhall
48112-14: Chichester
48115-18: Andover
48119/20: Preston
48121-29: Cwmbran
48130-38: East Scotland
48139-48: Torquay
48149-55; Dover
48156/7: Hastings
48158-60: Swindon
Mellor Strata 8.7m:
49901-4: Manchester
Volvo 9700 DD:
50501-7: Cumbernauld
50508-11: Perth
50512-16: Inverness
50517-30: Walkergate
50532-36: Aberhill
50537-44: Glenrothes
Mercedes Tourismo Access:
59101-6: Thurso
Volvo BZL/MCV (midi):
66026-63: London (Lea Interchange & Bromley)
Switch Metrocity EV:
67013-22: London (Walthamstow)
Yutong E12:
73001-23: Rawmarsh
73024-43: Sunderland
Volvo BZL/Volvo (single deck):
76101-20: Stockport
Enviro400EV new:
80001-55: Oxford
Wright Streetdeck Electroliner:
82049-74: London (Ash Grove)
BYD/Enviro400EV:
84201-50: Manchester
Volvo BZL/MCV (double deck):
86031-180: Stockport
86181-225: London (Lea Interchange & Ash Grove)
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cnjb8
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Apparently 48101-4 have been diverted to Manchester instead of Ardrossan
Highland050261
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It makes sense as all the New Manchester buses have TfGM spec interior apart from the solos witch have Stock Stagecoach Interior.
Leedsbusman
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Are there really two batches of four Stratas for Manchester with slightly different fleet numbers?
Highland050261
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Yes.
Spotted this on Twitter - commemorating the changing of the guard at Queens Road with a piece of art, and the outgoing MD passing the keys to his office to the incoming one.
Yes. Different chassis too, which rather explains the fleetnumbers!
Leedsbusman
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Different lengths rather than chassis I assume as the Strata is Sprinter based. Mellor’s press release for the Bee Network orders only mentioned four for Stagecoach. Hopefully they will be at different depot as having 44901 and 49901 as similar buses in one depot would confuse me!
@Leyland Bus just wondering if there has been any repaints recently at Bolton or if any have been sent off for refurbishment.
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To be honest, after the front ends for Heywood based school buses, the whole of last week and weekend was spent helping clear Queens Road ready for Stagecoach coming in. We have a Citaro to paint for Manchester College (6215) and a "special project" that I can't disclose yet.@Leyland Bus just wondering if there has been any repaints recently at Bolton or if any have been sent off for refurbishment.
Plus, on top of that, we're off work for a fortnight (it really takes it out of you emptying a bus depot
) so let's see what pans out when we're back 
Thanks as always for the reply, read that the Citaro was being used for something but will await what that will beTo be honest, after the front ends for Heywood based school buses, the whole of last week and weekend was spent helping clear Queens Road ready for Stagecoach coming in. We have a Citaro to paint for Manchester College (6215) and a "special project" that I can't disclose yet.
Plus, on top of that, we're off work for a fortnight (it really takes it out of you emptying a bus depot
Enjoy your time off!47550
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Are the electrics at Sharston part funded by TfGM so are more likely to have arrangements to be passed on to the new operator. Or did I dream that ?
Also, the announcement says there are a further 120 electrics to come for tranche 3. As there are already 170 new electrics ordered for Stockport the 120 must be presumably for Metroline ?
Also, the announcement says there are a further 120 electrics to come for tranche 3. As there are already 170 new electrics ordered for Stockport the 120 must be presumably for Metroline ?
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But will they arrive in time?
When the whole tendering arrangements were agreed at the outset, aside from the garages which are difficult to move around
, was there a census of existing buses which could be passed around new operators (which would stop the likes of Stagecoach transferring time expired buses into the 'pool'), or was nothing specified?Metroline (CDG) have around 1200 buses in London. There have not been any contract loses recently - in fact they have gained the E1 and 28, but some contract renewals have called for around 150 new electric buses. Will they be delivered before January 2025, and will the recharging facilities be up and running by then to allow existing buses to transfer to Manchester?
So potentially 120 TfGM ordered buses and 150 transfers from London, which leaves around 100 others to find. Maybe a mixture of a few transfers from Cardiff and some new buses?
The discussion about destination screens has been moved:
Bee Network - query about destination screens
I know this is extremely minor in the grand scheme of things, but it's a bit irritating that for all the harmonisation of branding and information provision, nobody has thought to standardise the route/destination displays on the outside of the buses. It appears that each operator is currently...
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