TfW services not going beyond Wolverhampton

[John R]

What matters to me is the journey planning and earlier time I would need to leave home to complete my journey to take into account the extra half an hour associated with the wait for another operator's service to complete my journey from Wolverhampton and the inconvenience of being turfed off a train which I expected to be direct with my luggage.

I get that, but the alternative is to thin out or withdraw a service where there is no alternative. Or do you think spare units (on which staff have been trained) exist on the magic unit tree that TFW can wave its wand at and get into service in a couple of days? Or should they just think, what the hell, let’s keep these units in service despite the fire risk.

 

[Runningaround]

I think the ‘via Birmingham New Street’ would need manually deleting, and this has just been overlooked while the service is curtailed to Wolverhampton. It’s certainly confusing for anyone who wants to travel to New St. I’m not sure if this message shows on all screens or if it depends what kind they are?

I thought the engineering work was diverting trains around Wolves into New St then finishing at Wolverhampton. They've done worse and sent them from Shrewsbury via Crewe and onto New St on a magical mystery tour of the West Midlands in the past.

 

[cambran]

Definitely no ticket acceptance on Cross Country. Yesterday before leaving New Street the train manager included TFW in her long list of tickets not valid on this train- so much for the new spirit of cooperation. I think it's Avanti and West Midland trains, although the message has gone from the TFW website.

 

[Runningaround]

What matters to me is the journey planning and earlier time I would need to leave home to complete my journey to take into account the extra half an hour associated with the wait for another operator's service to complete my journey from Wolverhampton and the inconvenience of being turfed off a train which I expected to be direct with my luggage.

Looks like they are sacrificing the route that's most heavily served by alternative options. New st to Wolves is roughly every 5 mins at some points in the day and not much less for New St to International. Your extra half hour is hardly a sacrifice more a choice.
Consider those who travel on the Coast with six hours to go on the last train from New St 18:30ish and an hour wait at Mach( no pubs open within 1/4 mile) and are turned away due to those piling on to go a few miles.

 

[Horizon22]

It does, yes, I've seen "Bletchley via Northampton" at Euston before when a Birmingham was terminating short.

Such vias aren't too hard to remove, it's just been overlooked.

 

[33021]

Happened regularly many years back in the bay platform at Wolves - used to Nickname the then ATW as ‘Always Turns Wolves’ not planned diagrams used to be to recover late running

 

[Bletchleyite]

Hopefully TFW make it clear not Avanti then

Very unlikely you'll get your ticket checked on Avanti on that journey anyway. And most walkups on that route are interavailable anyway.

 

[Mike 1050]

Trains running to international this morning

 

[Llanigraham]

When I regularly take the train to Brum from the Cambrian, and then onwards, my tickets have never stated an operator, just "via Birmingham"

 

[Watershed]

When I regularly take the train to Brum from the Cambrian, and then onwards, my tickets have never stated an operator, just "via Birmingham"

They won't, because they are likely regulated fares and therefore cannot have an operator restriction.

TfW set their own, dedicated fares between Shrewsbury/Wolverhampton and Birmingham New Street/International (and a few other intermediate flows), as they aren't the lead fare setter for those flows. This is where ticket acceptance is a must; people can't be told that they have to pay extra or face some form of penalty (at least on tickets that were bought before the trains were curtailed) just because TfW are short of units.

 

[Mark Carter]

If you want to see inconvenience, come down to the other end of the TFW area, Carmarthen to Milford haven, where all trains are buses today to save units. 28 minutes wait for another train would be a luxury

 

[Krokodil]

Through services to International appear to have been reinstated for next week, but this is at the expense of the Conwy Valley (replaced by a bus, yet again); and Liverpool services (no bus, ticket acceptance with Merseyrail, which is one heck of a long way around if you were just going from Frodsham to Runcorn).

 

[TPO]

If you want to see inconvenience, come down to the other end of the TFW area, Carmarthen to Milford haven, where all trains are buses today to save units. 28 minutes wait for another train would be a luxury

And a chunk of cancellations on the Valleys due to unit shortage (presumably to free up units for 175 routes).

TPO