I'm assuming these will be the non-PRM compliant ones. The new Flex parcels trains will be delivered to ROG in early 2020..ROG are due to lease two 319's, convert them into 769's and use them for postal services. I wonder if these will use the non-PRM compliant 319's since the modified ones can find new homes elsewhere without requiring too much work?
They're saying they hope to have them in operation by Christmas this yearI'm assuming these will be the non-PRM compliant ones. The new Flex parcels trains will be delivered to ROG in early 2020..
They're saying they hope to have them in operation by Christmas this year
Yes - 319443 is one of the 319s earmarked for GWR. When done, it'll be renumbered 769943 - the "/9" signifying its tri-mode (AC/DC/Diesel) designation.A DTSO from 319443 has emerged at Brush Loughborough. Could this be the first unit to be converted for GWR?
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Why would 319372 be heading to WMT? I would assume Northern are keeping this oneWe had a brief at work today saying that the 319 fleet will be 15 units at LNR in time for the new timetable to release further 350s on Southern WCML workings. I've lost track of how many are currently allocated but pretty sure it's not as many as that.
Looking at the lists ( this is a pure guess) I wonder if the WM fleet could be 319005/013/214/215/216/217/218/219/220/372/429/433/441/457/460.
Then TfW get 421/426/444/446 which I believe uses all the Prm compliant 319s and saves TfW having 3 different subclasses
I thought 372 and 373 were there temporarily until the 769s arrived. If it does stay at Northern it would mean 1 more unit would need the PRM mods for either WMT or for the TfW 769s.Why would 319372 be heading to WMT? I would assume Northern are keeping this one
Are the LNR ones still to take over the Tring services if so when?We had a brief at work today saying that the 319 fleet will be 15 units at LNR in time for the new timetable to release further 350s on Southern WCML workings. I've lost track of how many are currently allocated but pretty sure it's not as many as that.
Looking at the lists ( this is a pure guess) I wonder if the WM fleet could be 319005/013/214/215/216/217/218/219/220/372/429/433/441/457/460.
Then TfW get 421/426/444/446 which I believe uses all the Prm compliant 319s and saves TfW having 3 different subclasses
Yes that's correct. 372 has the Mods. With the larger LNR fleet and the extra 769s now though it would seem that all of the PRM compliant 319s are spoken for so if 372 does stay with Northern an extra unit would need to be modified.As I understand it 372 has PRM mods but 373 does not.
It may be in Porterbrooks interest to make Northern a decent offer to keep 372 and 373 rather than put them back into store at Long Marston with the storage costs and ultimately scrappage fees if any.
I'm not 100%, but if anyone knows different then please correct me, but 319012 is currently at Wolverton being refurbished for LNWR. If that is correct then I'd say 012 would take the place of 372 with LNWR, as one I can't quite see Northern being able to free it up in time for May, & probably more importantly two, 372 lacks any first class accommodation which is present on all the other 319s LNWR have.We had a brief at work today saying that the 319 fleet will be 15 units at LNR in time for the new timetable to release further 350s on Southern WCML workings. I've lost track of how many are currently allocated but pretty sure it's not as many as that.
Looking at the lists ( this is a pure guess) I wonder if the WM fleet could be 319005/013/214/215/216/217/218/219/220/372/429/433/441/457/460.
Then TfW get 421/426/444/446 which I believe uses all the Prm compliant 319s and saves TfW having 3 different subclasses
Saw a photo of 319219 in service. Will remove them from the list.319218 was shown last week as at Northampton but is now shown as arriving at Bletchley yesterday. So not sure if it is in service with LNWR or not as of yet?
I'm not 100%, but if anyone knows different then please correct me, but 319012 is currently at Wolverton being refurbished for LNWR. If that is correct then I'd say 012 would take the place of 372 with LNWR, as one I can't quite see Northern being able to free it up in time for May, & probably more importantly two, 372 lacks any first class accommodation which is present on all the other 319s LNWR have.
I'd also take a punt that The further 4 769s TfW are meant to now be getting would be 319004/009/010/011 given the ones they are known to be getting are also 319/0s, but then that would be too straightforward for the railway world.
Its now put back together and has new bogies and wheelsets. The other units that have had the samw work done have all gone to LnR soon after so presume this will follow.Just saw half of 319214 at Crewe depot - two carriages missing. I assume it's undergoing refurbishment for LNWR?
Good to know, cheers for the info!Its now put back together and has new bogies and wheelsets. The other units that have had the samw work done have all gone to LnR soon after so presume this will follow.
Its now put back together and has new bogies and wheelsets. The other units that have had the samw work done have all gone to LnR soon after so presume this will follow.
That would have been 319214, which was there to get new bogies and wheelsets ahead of its return to service with LNWR.Could be mistaken here, but I’m 99% sure I saw a white 319 on Crewe ETD last week. Any work being done there?
Their heavy use on the WCML, much of it at speed, would indicate that demand on bogie performance would make refurbishment a higher priority than on some of their other cascaded deployments.That would have been 319214, which was there to get new bogies and wheelsets ahead of its return to service with LNWR.
That would have been 319214, which was there to get new bogies and wheelsets ahead of its return to service with LNWR.