the swanage belle 14th july

[VEP3417]

down timings
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50656/2016/07/14/advanced

up timings
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U50657/2016/07/14/advanced

i got the wrong day today but as i was going back to the car from brockenhurst im sure i saw a class 455 go past up to bournemouth direction?

anyway should have some pics tomorow when it comes through

 

[SpacePhoenix]

i got the wrong day today but as i was going back to the car from brockenhurst im sure i saw a class 455 go past up to bournemouth direction?

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O11395/2016/07/13/advanced

Is that around the time that you saw the 455?

 

[VEP3417]

it was about 12 ish i think

 

[Kite159]

Silly question, but what is the 10 minute stop at Beaulieu Road on the outward leg for?

 

[Deepgreen]

Silly question, but what is the 10 minute stop at Beaulieu Road on the outward leg for?

No questions are silly! My guess is for watering (albeit a short stop for that), or an error in the timings. As there's no loop or siding there, there's no other reason such as a timing stop for pathing, etc. Edit - yes, see UKSteam web site - 11 minutes for watering.

 

[VEP3417]

theres no way for a truck to get to the train to water it unless they run a big hose out along the platform, they use to re fill railtours at brockenhurst on the lymington platform before so not sure why they wouldnt do that

 

[ARoo21]

46115 hauling it today. Will also be hauling London-Weymouth next Tuesday (19th July).

 

[VEP3417]

might have to catch it again tuesday then as a down train got in the way today and i had a smudge on my lense :roll:

 

[341o2]

theres no way for a truck to get to the train to water it unless they run a big hose out along the platform, they use to re fill railtours at brockenhurst on the lymington platform before so not sure why they wouldnt do that

The stop at bealieu rd is indeed for watering in the event of steam haulage, and requires a fire tender to supply the water. Last year, the fireman's (firefighters) industrial action caused cancellation of steam specials - no fire tender, no water, no steam haulage unless A4 with twin tenders avaliable, which can do the entire trip without the need to take additional water en route

 

[SpacePhoenix]

It got cancelled between Staines and Victoria due to a problem with safety equipment (AWS perhaps?), any link between whatever equipment went wrong and it leaving Swanage just over an hour late?

 

[221129]

The stop at bealieu rd is indeed for watering in the event of steam haulage, and requires a fire tender to supply the water. Last year, the fireman's (firefighters) industrial action caused cancellation of steam specials - no fire tender, no water, no steam haulage unless A4 with twin tenders avaliable, which can do the entire trip without the need to take additional water en route

The tender is normally a private company and not the Fire Service.

The reason a lot of steam was cancelled during the FBU strikes was because of the risk of lineside fires and the lack of anyone to put it out.

 

[emil]

It got cancelled between Staines and Victoria due to a problem with safety equipment (AWS perhaps?), any link between whatever equipment went wrong and it leaving Swanage just over an hour late?

The Crompton failed at Swanage so it returned to Southampton using the steam engine tender first instead of being diesel hauled there.

 

[325rm]

The fire tender at Beaulieu is indeed private and the hose is run across the platform. This stop is beginning to become popular with enthusiasts.

By the time the train turned around at Southampton the Compton didn't sound too sick maybe the fault was cleared, however it was still running over an hour late so the path had gone.

 

[325rm]

2 pictures taken at Beaulieu Road in the morning and 1 taken at Millbrook that evening.

 

[Deepgreen]

It was the AWS that failed, which would have prevented the 33 from taking the ECS from Victoria, hence the termination at Staines. Made for a very rare instance of tender-first passenger haulage on the main line, though!

 

[VEP3417]

amusing when older trains save the day