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Things (bad, but non-criminal) done in youthful folly, over which one now feels great shame

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Busaholic

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I enjoyed the Cubs. When I was older I moved on to Scouts but it was a new troop with nothing happening (leaderless mainly) so sadly I lost interest as it was a let down from the Cubs. I think the railways then came along to interest me. I did not have much money so a lot of effort went into planning efficient trips and that probably absorbed me.
I'm with you there. I'd say I embraced the whole Wolf Cub ethos bigtime, and I was lucky with the women leaders we had. It was helped by having 21 packs in the area and we were no.1 numerically, as well as in other ways: quite an achievement for a pack associated with a C of E church that wasn't the parish church. Scouts, however, was a very different ball game, with bullying from older scouts coupled with my instinctive unease about the man who was second-in-charge, aged in his thirties, single and apparently dressed in scout clothing all day every day. A weekend scout camp (my first) I hated so much I left the Scouts immediately afterwards, with no regrets.
 
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The worst thing is, I suspect, some adult brat has vandalised it by CLOSING DOWN said line !.

I don't remember, in early teens, doing much if any "scenario-ising" re history and fate of my dreamed-up 2ft. 6in. gauge line. It would at all events -- if then still extant -- have been in considerable bother, as at the closure to passengers in October 1962, of Kingham -- Cheltenham. If I have things rightly (could be that I don't), that line continued to carry freight for a bit longer; and my "legend" for my n/g line, would have included its having freight facilities (maybe with transporter wagons a la Leek & Manifold); but the Bourton & Broadway would have had no meaningful future (as mentioned, no connection with the standard gauge at Broadway) -- at best, part of it preserved, as a pure "nowhere-much-to-nowhere-much" indulgence: to my tastes, better total abandonment and obliteration.

I have a rather parallel experience with maps. In my teenage years (so over half a century ago), I was given a number of pre-WW2 maps, mostly OS 1" sheets from the early days of "motoring" as an activity. On several of these, I proceeded to "update" them by adding then-new motorways, bypasses and link roads in either pencil or ink. There was no "shame" in my case - the maps weren't given to me as historical or valuable items, they were just old maps that relatives were disposing of, who knew of my liking for maps and that teenage pocket-money didn't run to many purchases at 6/6d for OS 1" or even 5/- for Bartholomew 1/2" sheets. I still have these maps in my collection, and as some are now nearing a century old, I rather wish they didn't have my teenage additions - the pencil ones have been carefully erased, but there is nothing I can do about those added in ink.

I "get" your sentiments here -- still, these maps were your own: morally (other than, "see below") they were yours to do with, whatever you wanted. Not that we don't at times do with our own; that which with hindsight, we wouldn't have !

However I am aware that for many people, maps aren't things to be kept carefully and in mint condition, they are things to be used as necessary and then replaced. This can sadly sometimes be seen by borrowing maps from your local public library - they will often be folded in bizarre ways, be separated from their cardboard covers, and occasionally have annotations from previous borrowers. So it seems possible that, if your relatives were in this category, they might well have been amused rather than horrified had they spotted your handiwork.

(My bolding) -- in my perception, this is the sane attitude re this matter: preferably, treat such things with due care; but essentially they are tools to use, not idols to worship. Some of my inclination to feel this way, comes from dealings with a guy whom I have known for many years; basically I like him -- he has many good qualities -- but in some ways, he's strange: to the point that I wonder what planet he actually comes from. He has a fanatical regard for inanimate objects of any delicacy, saying that he feels for them as though they were living creatures -- maps have come into question, re this issue -- he can get as angry with others over "callous / careless / crass" treatment of the inanimate (ownership here, irrelevant), as over such actions toward the animate. I feel that if during his life, he had "cut up rough" (verbally) with the wrong person, over this: it's likely that he'd have been the one to incur physical damage. Although this bloke is a militant atheist: his sentiments re ill-treatment of "the delicate inanimate", are comparable with those felt by a particular kind of religious zealot, over sacrilege committed toward sacred objects / doings -- "go figure". This particular quirk of this chap, has me feeling strongly re this matter: "better to err on the other side, than the side on which he does".

It could indeed be, that my relatives would have been as you say, amused rather than outraged. They had a good deal of empathy with my besotted-ment with "things rail", while feeling that I took it too far. Not that they didn't have passions / obsessions of their own; but, "I just give to the most fascinating and important subject in the world, the attention that it deserves; you are obsessed; he belongs in a padded cell".
 

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Magnifying glass, sunny day and pop pop pop.

Ants also made a nice pop under such circumstances....

Things I've done as a kid which in hindsight is/was stupid and could have had dramatic consequences... Placing old pennies on the line near Welwyn North when an engineering train (ballasting) had possession, as part of a dare game. Granted the 37 was moving around walking pace and (which we didn't know at the time) there was a possession so no risk of anything coming from the other direction but it made it all the more dangerous and risky in our minds.... I was 8 at the time !

Later in my early teens we had a chance of running our own disco at a youth club using two identical record players, however we had no lighting. My brother worked as a mechanic servicing ambulances and fire engines and managed to get me a couple of rotating beacons, but we wanted / needed more.... so went looking for roadworks and over a couple of weeks managed to obtain a good half dozen of those yellow flashing lights, the ones with a square base to house the battery and a large 5" amber lens / disk on top.... mind you we were thoughtful, and would never take all from one location thus preventing some poor motorist from falling in to the open trench !!

On the subject of roadworks we would often move diversion signs...sending cars on a wild detour.. at the time it seemed funny....
 

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I am surprised that nobody who was ever a student has actually not confessed to stealing, rather than moving, a traffic sign or cone yet. I wonder why we did this? We decorated our university flat kitchen for seven of us with a roadworks sign. One day about five police visited us looking for a suspected Iranian terrorist - he had moved out previously - but they just ignored it. In hindsight, they had evidently more important things to deal with, but at the time we were all trying not to look at it…
 

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I am surprised that nobody who was ever a student has actually not confessed to stealing, rather than moving, a traffic sign or cone yet. I wonder why we did this? We decorated our university flat kitchen for seven of us with a roadworks sign. One day about five police visited us looking for a suspected Iranian terrorist - he had moved out previously - but they just ignored it. In hindsight, they had evidently more important things to deal with, but at the time we were all trying not to look at it…
My first year university accomodation contract specifically stated no traffic cones/signs or shopping trolleys...

Although I never got around to it, my cunning plan was to turn a traffic cone into a floor-standing lamp!
 

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My first year university accomodation contract specifically stated no traffic cones/signs or shopping trolleys...

Although I never got around to it, my cunning plan was to turn a traffic cone into a floor-standing lamp!
We did definitely get round to that one. I'll try and dig up a photo of it and of it after it was decorated for Christmas!
 

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This thread has brought to mind for me a humorous poem from long-ish ago, which has given me a laugh ever since I first happened upon it, way back. (Its railway theme is especially appropriate for these Forums.) With my having managed to access the text afresh, after long having been without it: am reproducing it below. It's by E.V. Knox, dating from the 1920s: a "mickey-take" of what seems to have been something of a literary vogue at the time -- earnest poetry, and prose, about grim / tragic doings and afflictions in an English rural setting. It is a direct parody -- even to its title, The Everlasting Percy -- of the much longer, and a bit earlier, The Everlasting Mercy by John Masefield; with, I suspect, a side-swipe at A.E. Housman's rather numerous, highly glum, and seemingly one-track-minded "sad Shropshire lad" poems. The comedy for me in "Percy", is the sheer disproportionate-ness: the speaker's very extreme, quasi-religious; penitence, shame, and woeful breast-beating over, on his part, sub-optimal -- but mostly, in the general scheme of things, trivial -- behaviour during his travels on passenger trains the length and breadth of Britain. While some of the things he confesses to, are rather reprehensible; his verbal beating-himself-up would be more appropriate to the deeds of a particularly sadistic serial killer.


I used to be a fearful lad,
The things I did were downright bad;
And worst of all was what I done
From seventeen to twenty-one
On all the railways far and wide
From sinfulness and shameful pride.

For several years I was so wicked
I used to go without a ticket,
And travelled underneath the seat
Down in the dust of people's feet,
Or else I sat as bold as brass
And told them "Season" in First Class.
In 1921, at Harwich,
I smoked in a non-smoking carriage;
I never knew what Life or Art meant,
I wrote "Reserved" on my compartment,
And once (I was a guilty man)
I swopped the labels on guard's van.

From 1922 to '4,
I leant against the carriage door
Without a-looking at the latch,
And once, a-leaving Colney Hatch,
I put a huge and heavy parcel
Which I were taking to Newcastle,
Entirely filled with lumps of lead,
Up on the rack above my head;
And when it tumbled down, oh Lord !
I pulled communication cord.
The guard came round and said, "You mule !
What have you done, you dirty fool?"
I simply sat and smiled, and said
"Is this train right for Holyhead?"
He said, "You blinking blasted swine,
You'll have to pay the five-pound fine."
I gave a false name and address.
Puffed up with my vaingloriousness,
At Bickershaw and Strood and Staines
I've often got on moving trains,
And once alit at Norwood West
Before my coach had come to rest.
A window and a lamp I broke
At Chipping Sodbury and Stoke,
And worse I did at Whissendine:
I threw out bottles on the line
And other articles as be
Likely to cause grave injury
To persons working on the line --
That's what I did at Whissendine.

I grew so careless what I'd do
Throwing things out, and dangerous too:
That, last and worst of all I've done,
I threw a great sultana bun
Out of the train at Pontypridd --
It hit a platelayer, it did.
I thought that I would have to swing,
And never hear the sweet birds sing --
The jury recommended mercy,
And that's how grace was given to Percy.

And now I have a motor-bike,
And up and down the roads I hike;
I've got a flapper on my carrier,
And some day I am going to marry her.
 
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