tubenutter
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Hi all,
A bit of a random one - I was travelling back from Leeds to York last Friday (13th) and wanted to get the 23:23 TPE service. When I got to Leeds station (on time) I saw that this train was quite delayed (>30 mins) so for various reasons not worth going into decided to wait for a bit before buying my ticket. Eventually, probably at around 23:40 I went to get my ticket from one of the LNER ticket machines but the 23:23 was no longer listed as an option, so I selected the next service and chose the Off-Peak Single - but this one was after midnight. When doing so I wondered whether it would issue me with a ticket for 13/Dec or 14/Dec, since the train I'd selected was a 14/Dec train, but the message at the top of the screen said something along the lines of "tickets valid for travel from 13/Dec 23:50" (actually I can't remember the exact time or wording, but it was the usual current time + 5/10 mins message that they always seem to put up as a disclaimer). I took the risk and it issued a ticket for 14/Dec but I decided to use it anyway and hope that the guard would understand my error! The guard never came so nothing happened.
In the end, the train ended up leaving at 00:10, so I have two questions:
Thanks in advance for any thoughts - I'm quite interested to know how the rules work for this!
A bit of a random one - I was travelling back from Leeds to York last Friday (13th) and wanted to get the 23:23 TPE service. When I got to Leeds station (on time) I saw that this train was quite delayed (>30 mins) so for various reasons not worth going into decided to wait for a bit before buying my ticket. Eventually, probably at around 23:40 I went to get my ticket from one of the LNER ticket machines but the 23:23 was no longer listed as an option, so I selected the next service and chose the Off-Peak Single - but this one was after midnight. When doing so I wondered whether it would issue me with a ticket for 13/Dec or 14/Dec, since the train I'd selected was a 14/Dec train, but the message at the top of the screen said something along the lines of "tickets valid for travel from 13/Dec 23:50" (actually I can't remember the exact time or wording, but it was the usual current time + 5/10 mins message that they always seem to put up as a disclaimer). I took the risk and it issued a ticket for 14/Dec but I decided to use it anyway and hope that the guard would understand my error! The guard never came so nothing happened.
In the end, the train ended up leaving at 00:10, so I have two questions:
- was my 14/Dec ticket valid on a train with a timetabled departure on 13/Dec but an actual departure on 14/Dec, or was I technically travelling without a valid ticket?
- would they be likely to give Delay Repay for this? I guess in principle I might be entitled to it as I was at the station in time for the 23:23 and in good faith expected to get it, but my ticket would suggest otherwise which was arguably my fault... I'm mostly asking this academically as the cost was relatively small so I don't mind what the answer is!
Thanks in advance for any thoughts - I'm quite interested to know how the rules work for this!