Transdev Blazefield

[SCH117X]

Note that the M31 doesn't serve Ampleforth Fairfax Close and College, as well as Oswaldkirk, unlike the 31X.

This years timetable has not yet been published so whilst the M31 might not have served those previously it probably is this year.

 

[dodecahedron67]

This years timetable has not yet been published so whilst the M31 might not have served those previously it probably is this year.

Timetable viewable on bustimes.org and it doesn’t serve them

 

[Jimmi]

Has Transdev ever actually operated on Moorsbus before?

Yes, York did operate on the original incarnation of Moorsbus which ended in 2013.

 

[YorkRailFan]

This years timetable has not yet been published so whilst the M31 might not have served those previously it probably is this year.

Transdev has published a timetable for it which shows that the M31 will run via Beacon Bank, skipping the College and Oswaldkirk.

https://www.transdevbus.co.uk/media/xfknd3hp/250410-m4-m31.pdf

 

[Bristol LHS]

Looking at the network map on the Moorsbus site, the M5 is truncated at Thirsk this year, which removes Northallerton from Moorsbus. Disappointing.

 

[Delenn]

Looking at the network map on the Moorsbus site, the M5 is truncated at Thirsk this year, which removes Northallerton from Moorsbus. Disappointing.

Unfortunate, but not their wish I understand. Transdev aren't running the M5 anyway.

 

[Jimmi]

Unfortunate, but not their wish I understand. Transdev aren't running the M5 anyway.

East Yorkshire has the M5 between Helmsley & Thirsk, along with:
M1 Hull - Pickering
M3 Pickering - Danby
M8 Helmsley - Castle Howard

It's mixed fortunes on Moors this year, whilst some lost links have been reinstated, others have been lost such as the M3 between Guisborough & Danby and Darlington doesn't have a service this year, instead starting at Stockton - unsure who has that as no-one's registered it yet, Hodgsons is my guess as Arriva would've registered it by now if it were them.

Don't think Arriva have the resources to do Moorsbus now and think Coatham Coaches were looking to offload the E200MMC used on their diagrams last year.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Looking at the network map on the Moorsbus site, the M5 is truncated at Thirsk this year, which removes Northallerton from Moorsbus. Disappointing.

The map and the website don’t seem to be aligned.

 

[Delenn]

The map and the website don’t seem to be aligned.

The map is right. The rest hasn't been updated yet.

 

[Towers]

The map is right. The rest hasn't been updated yet.

That’s rather poor.

 

[YorkRailFan]

Seems like Transdev is having some issues with destination blinds displaying DalesBus services. Today, 755 was on the 825 with the destination screen displaying "York and Country" with a piece of paper next to the DalesBus sign telling passengers it was the 825.

 

[SCH117X]

Seems like Transdev is having some issues with destination blinds displaying DalesBus services. Today, 755 was on the 825 with the destination screen displaying "York and Country" with a piece of paper next to the DalesBus sign telling passengers it was the 825.

Services not programmed in, same with the Gemini 2421 on the 875 today. Whilst I can understand destination displays not being manually full programmnable by the driver IMO there ought to be an option to display Service xxx with the driver being able to enter the xxx route number.

 

[Shaw S Hunter]

Way back in the day I had some responsibility for maintaining electronic destination lists. One of the absolute keys should be to set up sufficient contingencies for situations such as these. In this particular case it would mean including services not currently operated but which might reasonably expected to become part of the network at some point especially where tendering is involved.

As for the idea of having a field capable of being entered by drivers it's both undesirable (for various reasons) and depending on the actual equipment in use may be impossible.

Bottom line is a little forward thinking can make a big difference. It also helps to avoid having only one or two back office staff capable of doing the necessary work.

 

[YorkRailFan]

Services not programmed in, same with the Gemini 2421 on the 875 today. Whilst I can understand destination displays not being manually full programmnable by the driver IMO there ought to be an option to display Service xxx with the driver being able to enter the xxx route number.

Transdev have obviously wiped the data for the 825, as they previously operated it in 2021, the same can't be said with the 875. Funnily enough, the rear destination blind only displayed "York" meaning on the return journey it was technically correct!

 

[Jimmi]

Way back in the day I had some responsibility for maintaining electronic destination lists. One of the absolute keys should be to set up sufficient contingencies for situations such as these. In this particular case it would mean including services not currently operated but which might reasonably expected to become part of the network at some point especially where tendering is involved.

As for the idea of having a field capable of being entered by drivers it's both undesirable (for various reasons) and depending on the actual equipment in use may be impossible.

Bottom line is a little forward thinking can make a big difference. It also helps to avoid having only one or two back office staff capable of doing the necessary work.

Destination displays at Transdev have been an issue for a while.

Routes not being programmed is a particular bug bear I have with them, previous management went with the case of branded buses only having pretty much that route programmed in to avoid branded buses going "off route" this has become much more of a problem of late, especially at Blackburn which still seem to be doing this practice with the '1' branded E200MMCs frequently appearing on other routes, typically having to display 'The Blackburn Bus Company' on the blinds often with no other indication of what route the service is operating, not even a paper destination, 59 doesn't appear to be in the list on Harrogate's Merc's based on a recent Dalesbus appearance (normally operated by a double decker). Good job Keighley seemingly has all their routes in their blind list, otherwise they'd really be struggling with some of the "off route" workings recently.

Wrong sized files happens on occasion too, leading to bits of blank space or part of the destination will be missing due to it being a file for a larger display than that bus has.

It's pretty poor that these Dalesbus routes haven't been programmed for the start of the season given they've had plenty of notice they'd be doing them this summer, even then you would've thought it would've been an idea to add them given Reliance have ran them for a few years now. I am however unsure how many of the 'York & Country' and 'Coastliner' buses have had displays updated to include the former Reliance routes.

 

[MCRTransitYT]

Destination displays at Transdev have been an issue for a while.

Routes not being programmed is a particular bug bear I have with them, previous management went with the case of branded buses only having pretty much that route programmed in to avoid branded buses going "off route" this has become much more of a problem of late, especially at Blackburn which still seem to be doing this practice with the '1' branded E200MMCs frequently appearing on other routes, typically having to display 'The Blackburn Bus Company' on the blinds often with no other indication of what route the service is operating, not even a paper destination, 59 doesn't appear to be in the list on Harrogate's Merc's based on a recent Dalesbus appearance (normally operated by a double decker). Good job Keighley seemingly has all their routes in their blind list, otherwise they'd really be struggling with some of the "off route" workings recently.

Wrong sized files happens on occasion too, leading to bits of blank space or part of the destination will be missing due to it being a file for a larger display than that bus has.

It's pretty poor that these Dalesbus routes haven't been programmed for the start of the season given they've had plenty of notice they'd be doing them this summer, even then you would've thought it would've been an idea to add them given Reliance have ran them for a few years now. I am however unsure how many of the 'York & Country' and 'Coastliner' buses have had displays updated to include the former Reliance routes.

Ive seen a versa with the Blackburn Bus Company on blinds

 

[Seehof]

The other “classic” is on the 24 from Acomb when it is in the city of York it announces that you are approaching its last stop and thank you for travelling Coastliner which it isn’t and in fact continues to Fulford! Not only that but the stop it announces for (near Clifford’s Tower) has never been a stop for the 24 although some drivers stop there and some don’t even if a bell is rung!

 

[Shaw S Hunter]

It all demonstrates a lack of attention to detail in that particular aspect of Transdev's operations, ie on-board information systems. Which is a shame since they clearly try to reach a higher standard overall than many other operators. It makes me wonder if they are a position or two short in the back office whether by design or otherwise.

 

[Towers]

A word from the TC might focus a few minds; running minus destination displays gets you sanctions, does it not?

 

[YorkRailFan]

I am however unsure how many of the 'York & Country' and 'Coastliner' buses have had displays updated to include the former Reliance routes.

I know that York's Versas and the ex-Harrogate Eclipses have displays for former Reliance routes, as do the ADL 200MMCs (751-755) and the two Transdev Grey Geminis, 2774 (now at Flyer) also had them. Doubt the Coastliner livered Geminis have them.

Not only that but the stop it announces for (near Clifford’s Tower) has never been a stop for the 24 although some drivers stop there and some don’t even if a bell is rung!

The Clifford Street stop saga (Fulford direction) is a weird one. First have only started calling there a few weeks ago, as have EY services so Transdev should stop there. Perhaps drop them an email. Until a few weeks ago, buses would simply continue to Piccadilly and wouldn't call there. All of this is a result of the one-way road down Coppergate.

The other “classic” is on the 24 from Acomb when it is in the city of York it announces that you are approaching its last stop and thank you for travelling Coastliner which it isn’t and in fact continues to Fulford!

That means they haven't been updated since last August! As that was when the 24 terminated in York and became a 26 to Fulford.

The first of the ex-Reliance fleet has now been fully repainted into York & Country Blue. 582, an ADL 200MMC, holds that honour.

 

[SCH117X]

Paul Turner has announced on facebook the Farewell to the Presidents Day by Keghley has been deferred to Sat May 17. Wonder if this has something to do with the vehicle issues at Coastliner and for example the displaced Dalesway vehicles for example may be heading to Malton/York temporarily.

 

[YorkRailFan]

Wouldn't surprise me if Keighley helps out with Coastliner this Summer again, the same happened last summer.

 

[Solent&Wessex]

Wouldn't surprise me if Keighley helps out with Coastliner this Summer again, the same happened last summer.

I was on a Coastliner service from Whitby a few weeks ago and there was a driver, in Keighley Bus Company uniform, stood at the front with the normal Coastliner driver. I assumed he was route learning for this very situation.

 

[YorkRailFan]

On the plus side for York, 2774 is reportedly back at Coastliner, following 2423 returning to Flyer.

I was on a Coastliner service from Whitby a few weeks ago and there was a driver, in Keighley Bus Company uniform, stood at the front with the normal Coastliner driver. I assumed he was route learning for this very situation.

Ah thanks for that, very interesting.

 

[Andyh82]

Paul Turner has announced on facebook the Farewell to the Presidents Day by Keghley has been deferred to Sat May 17. Wonder if this has something to do with the vehicle issues at Coastliner and for example the displaced Dalesway vehicles for example may be heading to Malton/York temporarily.

Just like the B10BLE farewell, it was never going to be the last day of service. Presidents will still be used after the event

 

[Towers]

Just like the B10BLE farewell, it was never going to be the last day of service. Presidents will still be used after the event

Or even in the same year!

 

[stevieinselby]

This years timetable has not yet been published so whilst the M31 might not have served those previously it probably is this year.

I'm not at all surprised the M31 doesn't bother with Fairfax Close, the whole point of it is to get leisure travellers from York to the moors, not muck about serving minor residential areas of villages – but missing out Ampleforth Abbey/College does seem a slightly odd choice, because I could imagine that might well attract visitors, especially on a summer Sunday.

 

[Delenn]

I'm not at all surprised the M31 doesn't bother with Fairfax Close, the whole point of it is to get leisure travellers from York to the moors, not muck about serving minor residential areas of villages – but missing out Ampleforth Abbey/College does seem a slightly odd choice, because I could imagine that might well attract visitors, especially on a summer Sunday.

I agree about Ampleforth Abbey. The M5 doesn't serve it either.

 

[96tommy]

2 Questions before I send another email to Coastliner about their inadequate service...

1 - Is there anyway of finding out if the 1940 from Leeds Bus Station ran on Friday evening. It didn't turn up and I could not see it on the bus tracker on the Transdev App so I had to resort to an Uber as I had to be somewhere for a specific time. The closest I can find is this which shows no bus as being on the 1940 suggesting it didn't run https://bustimes.org/trips/477704294/block?date=2025-04-25

2 - On Good Friday, I presume the Coastliner must've been on a Sunday service pattern? But when I checked the TransdevGo app and chose a stop, the usual Monday - Friday services were showing but with no bus being tracked, is this a known issue?

Thank you in advance!

 

[tram21]

Is there anyway of finding out if the 1940 from Leeds Bus Station ran on Friday evening. It didn't turn up and I could not see it on the bus tracker on the Transdev App so I had to resort to an Uber as I had to be somewhere for a specific time. The closest I can find is this which shows no bus as being on the 1940 suggesting it didn't run https://bustimes.org/trips/477704294/block?date=2025-04-25

As it didn't turn up, it probably didn't run! Looking at that tracking, I'd say it didn't.

On Good Friday, I presume the Coastliner must've been on a Sunday service pattern? But when I checked the TransdevGo app and chose a stop, the usual Monday - Friday services were showing but with no bus being tracked, is this a known issue?

They ran a Sunday service. I believe this was shown on the service updates for all services. Often technology fails to accept that bank holidays fall on any day other than a Monday.