TheGrandWazoo
Veteran Member
Woah @TheSel - I'm struggling to keep up with these
I haven't had chance to respond to the 1984 Wrexham one and now another!! As always, thanks for the superb photos. You clearly have the charm to get drivers to stop and allow you to take their photo.
1984 - Some nice shots there, and the one in Shocklach has the pub looking rather traditional. Thanks to Streetview, you can still find it and it looks more Gastro. The thing that caught my eye, and I've seen in it mentioned elsewhere is that whilst Crosville had more DP Nationals than almost anyone else, they could be relied upon to have them grinding around on local services. Meanwhile, standard ones with brown vinyl seats would be flogging around on cross-country routes.
Good to see a bit of trundling round on town services in Wrexham. That bus shelter and flats behind SRG181 don't look too smart. Against, Streetview shows they've been smartened up a lot. Mold bus station though never seems to change appreciably. Another little observation between that and 1985 was the dispensing of Setright ticket machines and the introduction of Almex A. That exactly mirrors the experience of my local firm who did the same at the same time. Setrights were getting on and parts were becoming scarcer.
1985 - Some glorious shots and as someone who's own local firm (United) had a similarly huge operating area, it's good to see a trip out that shows the same sorts of things I experienced albeit with poppy red rather than leaf green. By that point, flat fronted REs had gone but United still had the odd bus seated RELL as a rarity (3 left by then) so similar to the Crosville RESL. Also, they had the same policy of sending elderly VRs for schools (and eliminating dupes) to rural depots yet often sending a new or nearly new VR to sweeten the deal. Like Machynlleth, United sent two VRs to Northallerton in 1981... a three month old example and a 1970s one. The idea of sending a brand new decker to Mach for a bus full of schoolkids for 30-ish weeks a year and associated pensioners with NTT tokens - it's bonkers. Yet I think that both Mach and Aberaeron got some of that batch. Llangefni may also have done so!
First time I did the run from Dolgellau to Mach... it was a B series National but about 10 years later than this. They were crude machines really but interesting as a relatively rare beast away from London Country or Crosville. Never done the run over the top from Ruthin to Corwen (except in the car) and should really do it. You had the weather for it. Whilst you may have done the D94 on an RE, I would venture that doing it on one of the two Deltas that Crosville Wales had tops it. I know that's herecy but they were great when fairly young, belting up the A494. One fess up is that I never had one of the later ECW RE coaches; United was all bus shell and whilst Northern had some, they went very early.
Anyhow thanks for the fantastic memories.

1984 - Some nice shots there, and the one in Shocklach has the pub looking rather traditional. Thanks to Streetview, you can still find it and it looks more Gastro. The thing that caught my eye, and I've seen in it mentioned elsewhere is that whilst Crosville had more DP Nationals than almost anyone else, they could be relied upon to have them grinding around on local services. Meanwhile, standard ones with brown vinyl seats would be flogging around on cross-country routes.
Good to see a bit of trundling round on town services in Wrexham. That bus shelter and flats behind SRG181 don't look too smart. Against, Streetview shows they've been smartened up a lot. Mold bus station though never seems to change appreciably. Another little observation between that and 1985 was the dispensing of Setright ticket machines and the introduction of Almex A. That exactly mirrors the experience of my local firm who did the same at the same time. Setrights were getting on and parts were becoming scarcer.
1985 - Some glorious shots and as someone who's own local firm (United) had a similarly huge operating area, it's good to see a trip out that shows the same sorts of things I experienced albeit with poppy red rather than leaf green. By that point, flat fronted REs had gone but United still had the odd bus seated RELL as a rarity (3 left by then) so similar to the Crosville RESL. Also, they had the same policy of sending elderly VRs for schools (and eliminating dupes) to rural depots yet often sending a new or nearly new VR to sweeten the deal. Like Machynlleth, United sent two VRs to Northallerton in 1981... a three month old example and a 1970s one. The idea of sending a brand new decker to Mach for a bus full of schoolkids for 30-ish weeks a year and associated pensioners with NTT tokens - it's bonkers. Yet I think that both Mach and Aberaeron got some of that batch. Llangefni may also have done so!
First time I did the run from Dolgellau to Mach... it was a B series National but about 10 years later than this. They were crude machines really but interesting as a relatively rare beast away from London Country or Crosville. Never done the run over the top from Ruthin to Corwen (except in the car) and should really do it. You had the weather for it. Whilst you may have done the D94 on an RE, I would venture that doing it on one of the two Deltas that Crosville Wales had tops it. I know that's herecy but they were great when fairly young, belting up the A494. One fess up is that I never had one of the later ECW RE coaches; United was all bus shell and whilst Northern had some, they went very early.
Anyhow thanks for the fantastic memories.