Trivia: Bus companies with the least amount of 2nd hand buses

[Class465pacer]

What are the bus companies with the lowest amount of 2nd hand buses in the fleet?

This includes both independent operators and operating divisions/garages of larger companies.

 

[JMcD99]

I believe trentbarton has no second hand buses in its fleet.

 

[Eyersey468]

I've forgotten the name of the company but a few years ago there was a 6 vehicle coach fleet that had a 3 year replacement cycle and bought 2 new Plaxton Profiles a year.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

What are the bus companies with the lowest amount of 2nd hand buses in the fleet?

This includes both independent operators and operating divisions/garages of larger companies.

Depends what you mean by secondhand?

Do you include vehicles transferred between OpCos of the same group?

 

[Robertj21a]

Nottingham City Transport

 

[Surreyman]

I believe trentbarton has no second hand buses in its fleet.

Wellglade do though -

 

[cnjb8]

Nottingham City Transport

They have a former Scania biogas demo.

 

[Robertj21a]

They have a former Scania biogas demo.

I know - the question is 'the lowest amount'.

 

[507021]

Blackpool Transport don't have any second hand buses.

 

[Class465pacer]

Depends what you mean by secondhand?

Do you include vehicles transferred between OpCos of the same group?

Yep. Buses transferred from another opco count as secondhand for this thread

 

[cnjb8]

I know - the question is 'the lowest amount'.

Then maybe put except a former Scania biogas demo.

 

[route101]

Until recently Id say Lothian!

 

[CN04NRJ]

Cardiff Bus, they haven't had any second hand vehicles in the fleet since 2007 when the last former Fife (Alexander) Ailsas were withdrawn.

Until recently Id say Lothian!

As a percentage I think the ex-London B9TLs make up roughly around ~8-9% of the city fleet?

 

[Robertj21a]

Then maybe put except a former Scania biogas demo.

The question isn't nil, it's the 'lowest'. Why should I include a specific exception?

 

[jammy36]

The question isn't nil, it's the 'lowest'. Why should I include a specific exception?

Absolutely and one second hand vehicle in a fleet as large as Nottingham's is impressive and to my mind the fleet certainly warrants mentioning in this thread.

In any case might the point be moot as although the lone vehicle in question was used for demonstration purposes by other operators wasn't it always intended for Nottingham (and ?always owned by them)? They placed an initial order for 53 gas buses and a follow-on order for a further 67 of which I thought DD18GAS formed part, but with an agreement that it would be used by Scania for demonstration purposes on loan to other operators (or am I misremembering things).

 

[cnjb8]

The question isn't nil, it's the 'lowest'. Why should I include a specific exception?

Because it's least amount, so specify the amount

Absolutely and one second hand vehicle in a fleet as large as Nottingham's is impressive and to my mind the fleet certainly warrants mentioning in this thread.

In any case might the point be moot as although the lone vehicle in question was used for demonstration purposes by other operators wasn't it always intended for Nottingham (and ?always owned by them)? They placed an initial order for 53 gas buses and a follow-on order for a further 67 of which I thought DD18GAS formed part, but with an agreement that it would be used by Scania for demonstration purposes on loan to other operators (or am I misremembering things).

Possibly yeah

 

[GusB]

Could we have less of the squabbling please?!

 

[ANDREW_D_WEBB]

Metroline and HCT in London both have relatively few second hand vehicles as a % of their total fleet.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Metroline and HCT in London both have relatively few second hand vehicles as a % of their total fleet.

Surely Metroline have still got substantial numbers of former First London fleet from that purchase?

 

[swifty]

Horseman Coaches. Of their fleet of c.80 I believe only 2 are second hand, ex Parks.

 

[ValleyLines142]

National Express West Midlands surely must be a good contender? Although being pedantic, you could say that National Express Coventry is a seperate company, so could be second-hand vehicles with the transferring they've done!

 

[Ridercross]

National Express West Midlands surely must be a good contender? Although being pedantic, you could say that National Express Coventry is a seperate company, so could be second-hand vehicles with the transferring they've done!

Yes I was thinking of NXWM too, nobody should class Coventry as a separate company, as it is all West Midlands Travel Ltd and the same operators licence.

 

[Strathclyder]

Has Whitelaws of Stonehouse been mentioned yet? Far as I understand it, all of their current normal service buses were bought (leased?) new; not 100% sure about the coach/private hire side of things. Am open to be corrected on both counts though.

 

[cnjb8]

Has Whitelaws of Stonehouse been mentioned yet? Far as I understand it, all of their current normal service buses were bought (leased?) new; not 100% sure about the coach/private hire side of things. Am open to be corrected on both counts though.

On the coach side they have an ex Moffat and Williamson Profile.

 

[ValleyLines142]

Yes I was thinking of NXWM too, nobody should class Coventry as a separate company, as it is all West Midlands Travel Ltd and the same operators licence.

True. Only exception is a handful of ex-Dundee Scanias (7019-7033) at Perry Barr.

 

[Abluhwleh]

True. Only exception is a handful of ex-Dundee Scanias (7019-7033) at Perry Barr.

And a handful of second hand E200s (729-734, 765-768)