TRIVIA: Bus routes/services that are no longer

[backontrack]

And your point?

Does there have to be one necessarily?

 

[Deerfold]

Does there have to be one necessarily?

Not necessarily, but it seemed to be something of a non sequitur in the conversation we were having.

 

[Bookd]

The 591 London to Edinburgh goes A1 way !
Was 2012 when i used it Glasgow to Newcastle and went via A7 , Gala , A68 , Jedburgh , NCL airport . Certain this route was still operating recently .

Another is the 537 that used to go from Glasgow to Corby via Carlisle , A65 , Skipton , Bradford etc . The 537 now appears to go via A1 and Newcastle .

Theres a new 548 that Starts in Edinburgh and goes to Birmingham via Glasgow

Going back to the sixties (pre NatEx) Newcastle to Glasgow was United route 14, a stage carriage service which took 7 1/2 hours and started from Whitley Bay in the summer.

 

[lejog]

The 591 London to Edinburgh goes A1 way !
Was 2012 when i used it Glasgow to Newcastle and went via A7 , Gala , A68 , Jedburgh , NCL airport . Certain this route was still operating recently .

Another is the 537 that used to go from Glasgow to Corby via Carlisle , A65 , Skipton , Bradford etc . The 537 now appears to go via A1 and Newcastle .

Theres a new 548 that Starts in Edinburgh and goes to Birmingham via Glasgow

AFAIK, National Express withdrew the service via Jedburgh sometime in the 2000s. I caught the replacement Jedburgh to Newcastle bus from Byrness after walking in the Cheviots in around 2008.

 

[anti-pacer]

AFAIK, National Express withdrew the service via Jedburgh sometime in the 2000s. I caught the replacement Jedburgh to Newcastle bus from Byrness after walking in the Cheviots in around 2008.

I can safely say that the Hull-Glasgow coach went via the A1 between Newcastle and Edinburgh back in 2007. I remember travelling on it as the second leg of my Nottingham-Glasgow trip, where I changed coaches in Newcastle.

I worked for NX in Nottingham back then and used to travel for freeeeee! Happy days.

I came back on the 537 which back then went via the A65. I got off in Skipton and went to Colne overnight to see some mates.

 

[route101]

AFAIK, National Express withdrew the service via Jedburgh sometime in the 2000s. I caught the replacement Jedburgh to Newcastle bus from Byrness after walking in the Cheviots in around 2008.

I took the 534 from Glasgow to Newcastle in March 2012 and went via the A7 and A68. must of only stopped recently
Used to be a Glasgow to Cardiff and Wrexham /Chester National Express routes too.

 

[route101]

Going back to the sixties (pre NatEx) Newcastle to Glasgow was United route 14, a stage carriage service which took 7 1/2 hours and started from Whitley Bay in the summer.

Long time that . I think it take 7 and half hours on the 534 to York from Glasgow

 

[Tetchytyke]

I took the 534 from Glasgow to Newcastle in March 2012 and went via the A7 and A68. must of only stopped recently

According to someone on the North East Buses forum, it stopped in May this year.

http://www.northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=641&pid=167326#pid167326

Used to be a Glasgow to Cardiff and Wrexham /Chester National Express routes too.

The 380 has been split in recent years at Leeds, but it used to run Newcastle-Wrexham, with summer extensions to Llanelli Pwllheli.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

According to someone on the North East Buses forum, it stopped in May this year.

http://www.northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=641&pid=167326#pid167326



The 380 has been split in recent years at Leeds, but it used to run Newcastle-Wrexham, with summer extensions to Llanelli Pwllheli.

It was the 383 in the mid 1990s where it was run by Western National.

 

[backontrack]

Not necessarily, but it seemed to be something of a non sequitur in the conversation we were having.

I like buses. Buses are nice.

 

[Tetchytyke]

It was the 383 in the mid 1990s where it was run by Western National.

They seem to change the numbers up here more often than I have hot dinners

I don't really keep up to date anymore. I'm not a student and I'm not unemployed so I take the train to Bradford not the bus

 

[Mitch in Notts]

X67 Lincoln to Manchester joint working by LRCC, East Midland / Mansfield and district and historically NWRCC

(Lincoln-Newark - Mansfield -Chesterfield - Stockport - Manchester)

And more 'recently ' Silver Service/Hulleys of Baslow.

 

[Mitch in Notts]

Just thinking about my village:

Erewash Travel (taken over by Stevensons of Uttoxeter and then NCT bought the Ilkeston depot a couple of years later)/Nottingham City/Trent 39 Eastwood to Beeston. Later Trent/Notts & Derby 229 then 555(Heanor to Beeston), 535(Dunnline) Selston to Beeston. 109 Eastwood to Toton via Beeston (Sundays) council tender.

331 Trent, Camms, Dunnline, Pathfinder, East Midland, Derby City, Nottingham City, and finally Doyles. Alfreton to Nottingham - Trent ran it Chesterfield to East Bridgford at one point.

340 Assarts Farm to Bestwood Village - NCT. This replaced Camms 73/118 Assarts Farm to Bulwell to Arnold(73 only).

NCT 72 Assarts Farm to Nottingham.

228 Veolia Hucknall to Nottingham - later changed to Hucknall-Beeston instead.

Skills Ripley to Nottingham via Moorgreen & QMC, later rerouted via Kimberley. Was it 228.

A whole network of Camms services think I used to use the 303? to school at a fraction of Trents prices. These ran at peak times from Derbyshire, having been used to transport miners etc to pits around Alfreton, they then ran in service to Nottingham at rush hour etc.

Trent 334? Hucknall to Nottingham via Watnall.
Trent 358 Ilkeston to Hucknall.
Trent 357 Shipley View to Nottingham.
Trent 230 Belper to Nottingham. Became Dunnline 230 New Eastwood to Nottingham in 1986. Trent then resurrected it as Heanor to Nottingham for a period.
Trent Codnor Express. Broadmarsh to Codnor via A610 & Heanor.

Trents current Rainbow1 replaced the R10-11-12-13, which were the 230,231 (and Dunnlines D31),332,333 before that. And the Midland General A1, A4, B1, B3, C5 before my lifetime.....

 

[Statto]

Been reading an interesting one, the old London Buses 10 Victoria-Abrige route was London Bridge-Aldgate-Stratford-Leytonstone-Woodford-Chigwell journey time was just over 90 minutes with PVR of 28, service was withdrawn in the late 80ss after being downgraded to Nationals.

 

[nottinghamcity]

Trent Barton have withdrawn a number of services in recent years, including Ruddington Connection, Leicester Xprss, Long Eaton Xprss, Sawley Xprss, Commuter Xprss (there's a theme here!) and their 22 service.

Sawley Xpress and Long Eaton Xpress became largely assimilated into Skylink Nottingham. This corridor has seem a fair bit of comings and goings in the last few years.

Yourbus in recent years have operated and then withdrawn the Y4, Y28, Y29 and the Citylink.

And the Y36 going soon too. Remember the Y35? Registered with months of notice at the same time as the Y28 but never operated.

The NCT review of 2001 which severed all cross city services basically meant the whole network changed either route, number or both. For example 38 became 36 with the route largely unchanged. The old 28 Bilborough - Carlton split into the new 28 and the Carlton end 27, the 48 ran then from St. Ann's, rather than the city as it does now. The list goes on ...

 

[Statto]

Yourbus West Midlands, nothing to do with the current Yourbus in Notts/Derby, livery was inspired by GMPTE before Travel West Midlands[as they were known as then] brought them, had routes like
A6Y-C6Y Birmingham-Solihull Circular
50Y Birmingham-Druids Heath

 

[londonbridge]

I remember several TFL routes which ran when I was a child which were withdrawn and the number has since been re-used for a route in a different part of London. Examples of these include the 233, which ran between Wallington and Roundshaw, now runs between Eltham and Swanley, and the 234, which IIRC ran between Wallington and Purley, now runs between Barnet and Highgate Wood. There was also a 234a for some journeys.

X26 currently runs between Heathrow and West Croydon, but as the 726 under a different operator it once ran as far out as Dartford before being curtailed to Bromley and then West Croydon as now.

I also vaguely recall Mole Valley route 4 which, again IIRC, only ran one day a week and we used to watch for it going past my school.

 

[Busaholic]

I remember several TFL routes which ran when I was a child which were withdrawn and the number has since been re-used for a route in a different part of London. Examples of these include the 233, which ran between Wallington and Roundshaw, now runs between Eltham and Swanley, and the 234, which IIRC ran between Wallington and Purley, now runs between Barnet and Highgate Wood. There was also a 234a for some journeys.

X26 currently runs between Heathrow and West Croydon, but as the 726 under a different operator it once ran as far out as Dartford before being curtailed to Bromley and then West Croydon as now.

I also vaguely recall Mole Valley route 4 which, again IIRC, only ran one day a week and we used to watch for it going past my school.

Just to add a note to your recollections, which are generally correct.
The 233 you refer to (and I remember an earlier one North of the river!) started as a one-bus service between Roundshaw and West Croydon in 1969, and was notable for being the first one-person operated double deck service in London: also notable was that that one bus was the only front entrance Routemaster, FRM 1. I had just started work with LTE and, living near to the route too, was able to travel on it on its first day, a Saturday, when there were certainly more enthusiasts than passengers.

The 726 originated as a Green Line service and was an offshoot of the established 725, Windsor to Gravesend. Outside the summer period Windsor and Staines traffic was nowhere approaching the traffic on the rest of the route, excepting the Dartford to Gravesend leg which was well catered for by the 480 bus route, plus other Green Line routes, so splitting it to operate via Heathrow was logical.

 

[Statto]

Reading the other day, there was 724 High Wycombe-Watford-Harlow-Romford, 725 Windsor-Kingston-Croydon-Gravesend, 727 Crawley-Gatwick Airport-Heathrow-Watford-Luton, think 727 may have become part of the Jetlink brand.

Ironic that pre TFL, LT have tried to axe the 726 on a few occasions, now the replacement X26 has improved frequency although it's been cut to Croydon-Heathrow.

 

[brompton rail]

Midland Red operated many long distance stage services in the 1960s and 1970s.

X91 was, I think, the longest. Twice daily Hereford, Malvern, Worcester, Pershore, Evesham, Stratford, Warwick, Leamington, Coventry, Nuneaton, Hinckley and Leicester return trip. Originally crewed throughout by a Hereford driver and conductor and similar from Leicester. In later years the timetables were adjusted so that the buses crossed at Stratford where the crews exchanged.

At Bank Holidays it was common for relief vehicles to be operated from Hinckley and Nuneaton to Stratford or Evesham or the Malvern. Double decker relief bus were not unknown though they couldn't continue westwards because of a low railway bridge at Hampton and so waited at Evesham's Midland Red bus garage for the return journey.

The growth of the car, increased congestion ( meaning that the route could not be completed within drivers hours) and declining bus patronage killed the X91, but it was very useful in its time.

Other Midland Red long distance routes included X12 (Birmingham, Litchfield, Burton & Derby), X99 (Birmingham Tamworth, Ashby de la Zouch, Long Easton and Nottingham).