It was a terminus overrun by buses in the days when the 227 and 228 terminated there. At the time when RFs worked the 227 it saw two or three of them together there during daytime, except on Sundays. Chislehurst has always been a difficult place to terminate buses, hence so many bits of route being almost thrown together over the years in a rather haphazard way to avoid terminating there. Through it all the 161 perseveres, though much diminished in status now. Sidcup Garage closing did Chislehurst no favours.
Didn't they also appear on 61 terminators?
Don’t believe so, it’s always just said ‘Chislehurst’ on them, as long as I lived down there
Metrobus's Fleetlines had Gordon Arms as a validator.
IIRC (!) the 90B terminated at Yeading at Kingshill Avenue, turning just short of Yeading Lane, in the junction of Edwwrd Road, which has had its kerblines built out sinceL https://www.google.com/maps/place/K...5340204!4d-0.4117931!16s/g/1td3fj4p?entry=ttu
About 20 years before my time hahaMetrobus's Fleetlines had Gordon Arms as a validator.
Picture shows a blue and yellow Metrobus DMS bus in Orpington showing Chislehurst Gordon Arms in its destination box
I 've also found First Centrewest Olympian (sorry, can't post a link) also showing Gordons Arms in 1996. What's your excuse now? !! (Sorry, funny emoji not showing on my phone)
Given I physically didn’t exist in 1996, keep trying ahah
Keepers Cottage was renamed Pentowan in 1919 and a small cafe added. Bus services by Romford & District started in 1926. Pre war the destination was "Pentowan Cafe"
Thanks for that, there is also Passingford Bridge, basically a roundabout in the middle of nowhere, where you can turn a bus.
'twas the 630.
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These days it's the first place north of Chase Cross where you can turn a bus.
Happy memories of Route 251 during the RF era, which also used to terminate at Burnt Oak
This reminds me of another unusual destination, Clapton Pond, where due to mechanical issues, one bus ended up taking the destination rather too literallyAnyway, I seem to remember on one occasion a Metroline Dart overshooting the junction and demolishing part of the pub and ending up in the bar!
EDIT: Link to an image of the badly damaged The Rising Sun pub after the accident
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If I recall correctly, this was on the first day of single deck Metro Scania operation. I had not heard it was mechanical failure before - do you know what happened?
It was a Scania MS. I knew the driver involved.
We find the H13 terminus at St Vincent's quite sweet
Reminds me of one of the variants of the then 98 bus (98b?) which ran somewhat round the then houses 'back in the day'. IIRC it was lost through 'rationalisation' relating to increasing car ownership and declining bus usage, and strikes. It ran from Hounslow to Hatch End- ish, depending on day of the week. It looks like Ruislip Lido is served by only the H13 these days, the 97, 158 and 211 being 'history'. At least it's stiil; open- is the Miniature railway thriving? By contrast West Ealing Lido, a cinema, also served then by the 97 bus, has long gone: http://www.ealingtoday.co.uk/default.asp?section=info&page=ealido001.htm. That Lido was IIRC an occasional terminus for buses to or from Southall or Hanwell bus garage.
I did say "issue" rather than "failure"
The 98B finished in London Transport hands in January 1966 with an overtime ban by bus drivers and conductors. Its Northern end was taken over by an independent operator by agreement with L.T. and, through various operators, the most well-known of which was Elms Coaches, continued off and on for many years, eventually morphing into the 398 which was eventually taken back into LT hands!
Thank you for that info Busaholic - good to know that my memory from 60 years ago (ok, 57 and three-quarters!) was quite good- I had a mini-stroke three months ago, so reassuring to know I haven't 'lost it'. My typing's not so good, though! Brian
You're very welcome, Brian. I have to admit my connections with N.W. London bus routes were mostly tenuous and infrequent, but I was the guy at London Transport responsible for monitoring West London bus stops for a few months fifty odd years ago so did get to know specific places a little better! The job did include those 98B stops in theory, though I never visited any. May I wish you all the best, and be reassured you've lost nothing!
Thank you fprthat interesting article. 1966 was very early days for the GLC, tho' Horace Cutler ws leader of harow Council (the only concil to survive reoganisation). He went on to promote the sales of Council houses, an early Thtcherite. Perhaps the 98B might be seen as an early example of 'privatisation'. Many f the houses around NW London were 'cutler' built.
