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Any examples out there of avoiding lines (which completely bypass a major station) that are currently still being used, even if occasionally, by passenger trains in service?

Such as, for example, possibly might be the case at locations such as Carlisle, Carmarthen, Crewe, Darlington, Inverness, Swansea and/or York?

(Not thinking here of lines that run through the centre of a given station, albeit not adjacent to any platform face, such as a number of stations on the Trent Valley).

Or are such avoiding lines ever only used by freight workings or ECS movements?
Are you including through lines without a platform adjacent to other lines which aren't in the centre? For example if I remember correctly Rugby has a southbound one which is sometimes used by Avanti to allow a following service to overtake.

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A lot of trains between Taunton and Bristol bypass Weston-Super-Mare (I think all XC services between the two plus the relatively rare Exeter-London GWR services via Bristol?).
XC used to run a single service in each direction via Weston-super-Mare on Saturdays, don't know if they still do. No doubt because Weston is traditionally a major seaside destination for Birmingham.
 
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Are you including through lines without a platform adjacent to other lines which aren't in the centre? For example if I remember correctly Rugby has a southbound one which is sometimes used by Avanti to allow a following service to overtake.
No. And in any event, isn't the only line through Rugby station that doesn't run alongside an adjacent platform, the (Northbound) Down Fast line, between platforms 1 and 2?

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Coming back from the Elizabeth Line opening day this week I went on the 19:40 service from Euston to Manchester Piccadilly, which uniquely goes via the entirety of the Styal line avoiding Stockport and not reversing at Manchester Airport. Some Sunday morning TfW services also go that way.
Decent call that, the Styal line was essentially originally built in the late 1900's as a means for express trains to avoid running through Stockport. The stations on the Styal line, now quite busy, were a bit of an afterthought.
 

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The main lines round the side of Darlington station are used by quite a lot of passenger services to bypass the station.
 

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You may find http://www.psul4all.free-online.co.uk/2022.pdf worth looking at -- some of the routes there will be avoiding lines. I haven't checked it in detail, but I have looked at those of your original suggestions that haven't been commented on yet, plus a few others that occur to me:

Carmathen: Yes
Swansea; Yes, although it appears that it's more common for trains to use the Swansea District line, which you might consider to be too long and too far from Swansea to count as an avoiding line.
Inverness: Nothing scheduled (in any case, a passenger train using the line would almost certainly still be heading for the station by a longer route, rather than avoiding it).

Newport: diversions only
Sleaford: Yes (but maybe that doesn't count as a major station)
Grantham: Yes (although it may be too far from Grantham to count. Much of what used to be the avoiding line is now the normal route)
Ely:Yes, albeit only once a week.

Moot point, given that the main line (via Weedon) was built and operational several decades before the line to / the loop via Northampton (Castle) station was open.
At Weston super-mare too the avoiding line is the original route, and the same may be true of Lewisham.
 

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Do the Northallerton Low level lines count? The new Middlesbrough to Kings Cross services use them to avoid Northallerton station as well as few weekend TPE services.
 

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You cannot add Crewe for another couple of years until the Independant lines are re-signaled.
When they did the Crewe resignalling in the 1980's I travelled from Lancaster to Euston. We went via the Independent lines. Why can't they be used now?
 

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The main lines round the side of Darlington station are used by quite a lot of passenger services to bypass the station.
What number of passenger services along the ECML completely avoid Darlington station?
 

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Carlisle's avoiding lines were removed a long time ago; they existed following electrification in 1974 but were subsequently removed. Although they were "goods" lines they did used to allow passenger services over them according to the old Sectional Appendix.
Wasn't their removal partly a result of damage by a runaway train?
 

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What number of passenger services along the ECML completely avoid Darlington station?
There’s 8 in number Lumo stay on the through lines, and currently only 1 x LNER but I think more of them skipped Darlington in the pre Covid timetable
 
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XC used to run a single service in each direction via Weston-super-Mare on Saturdays, don't know if they still do. No doubt because Weston is traditionally a major seaside destination for Birmingham.
These services are currently not running, so instead, a couple of services each day now use the loop line, but do not stop, to retain route knowledge
 

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On a similar note, Darlington?
Virtually every southbound Lumo service avoids Darlington station, however most northbound services are routed through the northbound platform (platform 4) to allow trains to enter and exit the southbound platform (platform 1). Some northbound services do get routed on the main line avoiding the station but not many.
 

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When they did the Crewe resignalling in the 1980's I travelled from Lancaster to Euston. We went via the Independent lines. Why can't they be used now?
40 years ago, no one signs them and I don't believe they are passed for passenger use currently. If they were available do you not think there would be trains over them?
 

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If Darlington counts, so presumably does Dunbar.
Just beat me to it, Dunbar would have been an obvious one until fairly recently but now there is a platform on what used to be the down avoiding line and as a result the up 'avoiding' line is now situated between the platforms albeit remote from the longstanding up/reversible platform.

The former layout at Rugby would be an interesting case with the fast lines passing on the outside of the lines which routed through either side of the island platform.

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Virtually every southbound Lumo service avoids Darlington station, however most northbound services are routed through the northbound platform (platform 4) to allow trains to enter and exit the southbound platform (platform 1). Some northbound services do get routed on the main line avoiding the station but not many.
Presumably when diverted via ECML the Caley sleepers would normally stick to the main line by passing the platforms at Darlington.
 
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There used to be but I don't think so currently.
I lived in Bath and worked in Bristol 1994-96 and there weren't any then, but more recently I think there was a Filton-Bath (or Bath-Filton, or both) service.
EDIT 2R98 15:53 Bristol Parkway to Bath Spa in the May 2015 timetable used it.
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There is still a service using the Rhubarb curve:

 

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If Darlington counts, so presumably does Dunbar.
Certainly not the biggest of stations, but probably busier than Frome, which was mentioned upthread. Debatable though as to whether the ECML is an "avoiding line", or whether the (Southbound) 'Up Berwick' line merely runs through the centre of Dunbar station, albeit not adjacent to any platform face.
 

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There used to be a Stoke - Manchester stopper that would avoid Stockport by going on the "Main" road behind platform 4 around the May 2018 timetable debacle
 

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There used to be a Stoke - Manchester stopper that would avoid Stockport by going on the "Main" road behind platform 4 around the May 2018 timetable debacle
That's as may be, but it's not a current service, is it?
 

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Any examples out there of avoiding lines (which completely bypass a major station) that are currently still being used, even if occasionally, by passenger trains in service?

Such as, for example, possibly might be the case at locations such as Carlisle, Carmarthen, Crewe, Darlington, Inverness, Swansea and/or York?

(Not thinking here of lines that run through the centre of a given station, albeit not adjacent to any platform face, such as a number of stations on the Trent Valley).

Or are such avoiding lines ever only used by freight workings or ECS movements?
Inverness is not an example here. Whilst there is an avoiding line ‘Rose Street Curve’, it is not used by any passenger service trains to avoid Inverness altogether.
 
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