Trivia - Largest towns served by just one TOC

[Glenn1969]

Rochdale Borough area (222,412) is marginally bigger than Swindon (222,193) and is only served by Northern

 

[mrd269697]

Apologies if done before. Blackburn ? Birkenhead ? Northampton ?

Technically Birkenhead is also served by Transport for Wales as they call at Bidston and Upton. But vast majority of services in the town (and all in the town centre) are ran by Merseyrail

 

[Wtloild]

Unless you count Metrolink as a TOC, Oldham borough (237k) is only served by TPE (to Greenfield).

 

[daodao]

What about Bury - not served by a ToC - just Metrolink (& ELR)?

 

[EnriqueEspaña]

Rochdale Borough area (222,412) is marginally bigger than Swindon (222,193) and is only served by Northern

Admittedly I don't know the area well but google says its also served by metrolink. Are we counting them as a TOC? I was suprised to see there are no TPE trains stopping there!

 

[221129]

What about Bury - not served by a ToC - just Metrolink (& ELR)?

Metrolink isn't a TOC so Bury doesn't count as it isn't served by a TOC at all.

 

[Llandudno]

Population of Barnsley Borough is 218,000

Is it only served by Northern?

 

[mirodo]

Would Brighton at 241,999 (source) count? Thameslink and Southern are, after all, sub-brands of GTR.

 

[221129]

Would Brighton at 241,999 (source) count? Thameslink and Southern are, after all, sub-brands of GTR.

But GWR isn't...

 

[mirodo]

But GWR isn't...

Ah, damn it. I did check as I’m not local to the area, but didn’t see and GWR departures today. How frequently do they serve BTN?

 

[4SubAsociation]

Kent. Quite a few acutally

Canterbury (already been mentioned)
Maidstone
Gillingham (Kent)
Folkestone
Dover
Ramsgate
Faversham
Sherness
Chatham
Rochester (was a city but when it went over to medway authority a piece paperwork did not get signed)
Sittingbourne

 

[Mikey C]

Kent. Quite a few acutally

Canterbury (already been mentioned)
Maidstone
Gillingham (Kent)
Folkestone
Dover
Ramsgate
Faversham
Sherness
Chatham
Rochester (was a city but when it went over to medway authority a piece paperwork did not get signed)
Sittingbourne

Many of those stations are also served by the Rainham Thameslink service

 

[4SubAsociation]

Many of those stations are also served by the Rainham Thameslink service

If have corrected the list. I was not fully aware thameslink went down that way. Makes you wonder when thameslink might come to Ashford (OT i know)

 

[TXMISTA]

Ah, damn it. I did check as I’m not local to the area, but didn’t see and GWR departures today. How frequently do they serve BTN?

Usually less than a handful a day

 

[swt_passenger]

Ah, damn it. I did check as I’m not local to the area, but didn’t see and GWR departures today. How frequently do they serve BTN?

Not often, only around twice a day weekdays in the normal (pre covid) timetable…

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Population of Barnsley Borough is 218,000

Is it only served by Northern?

It is only served by Northern I believe. Probably the biggest in Yorkshire anyway. Had thought of Halifax, but Grand Central have started up again... also the borough (Calderdale) includes Brighouse which in addition to GC also gets TPE calls at times of disruption.

 

[30907]

Admittedly I don't know the area well but google says its also served by metrolink. Are we counting them as a TOC? I was suprised to see there are no TPE trains stopping there!

TPE runs though Rochdale on diversions but doesn't call.

 

[Jamesrob637]

Salford is only served by Northern if we're talking Greater Manchester boroughs!

 

[Stuwhu]

Salford is only served by Northern if we're talking Greater Manchester boroughs!

Irlam is in the Borough of Salford and is served by East Midlands Trains (only one train per day I think)

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Irlam is in the Borough of Salford and is served by East Midlands Trains (only one train per day I think)

That's correct. 1753 (SuX) semi-fast Westbound towards Liverpool Lime Street.

 

[stut]

Belfast only has NIR, unless you count the jointly-run Enterprise as being a different TOC.

 

[Ianno87]

That's correct. 1753 (SuX) semi-fast Westbound towards Liverpool Lime Street.

Ah yes, what I call "The Irlam Broadsman".

 

[kevconnor]

Irlam is in the Borough of Salford and is served by East Midlands Trains (only one train per day I think)

A number of TPE also stop at Salford Crescent.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

A number of TPE also stop at Salford Crescent.

Is that actually the case? If so, which service(s)?

(I can see Salford Crescent as currently being served by Northern only).

 

[Jamesrob637]

A number of TPE also stop at Salford Crescent.

They barely manage Bolton so I'd be surprised if they manage SLC!

 

[kevconnor]

Is that actually the case? If so, which service(s)?

(I can see Salford Crescent as currently being served by Northern only).

Sorry think i must have got it wrong, I checked earlier on my phone on RTT and thought I saw some that were, I've looked again now and they aren't passenger calls but just change direction at Salford Crescent.

EDIT

It was a mistake sorry, this was the service I was looking at, and another one earlier on, thinking it was a passenger call.

Realtime Trains - 1P06 0252 York to Manchester Airport

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[Mcr Warrior]

It was a mistake sorry, this was the service I was looking at, and another one earlier on, thinking it was a passenger call.

Fair enough, not that bad a shout as it happens...

Wonder whether Salford Crescent is "open" at that time of the day?! First train in public service that calls there isn't normally until half an hour or so later.

 

[Mordac]

Belfast only has NIR, unless you count the jointly-run Enterprise as being a different TOC.

It's not a town though.

 

[James Howse]

Birkenhead served by TfW.

Birkenhead is only served by merseyrail

 

[HSTEd]

Birkenhead is only served by merseyrail

Isn't Bidston widely considered to be in Birkenhead?