TRIVIA: Longest dwell time in the middle of a continuous service

[tramdan]

My train to Skegness from Nottingham this morning (2S91) has an 18 minute dwell time at Boston, between 0701 and 0719.

What other examples exist where a train simply waits at a platform for an extended period of time before continuing?

Mid journey reversals are related, but I would say are just outside the true scope of this post.

 

[zwk500]

The most obvious examples are the Avanti London-Scotlands via West Mids, which pause at Wolverhampton for 10-15 minutes as they're two separate paths stitched together.

 

[Trainguy34]

75 Mins at Edinburgh on the sleeper is also obvious, even if barely anyone is awake for it.

 

[Merseysider]

Northampton sees regular extended dwells throughout the day.

Eg the 0711 and 0810 to Birmingham today both have 16 mins. The 2328 to London gets 18 mins.

 

[Whistler40145]

My train to Skegness from Nottingham this morning (2S91) has an 18 minute dwell time at Boston, between 0701 and 0719.

What other examples exist where a train simply waits at a platform for an extended period of time before continuing?

Mid journey reversals are related, but I would say are just outside the true scope of this post.

I presume that the dwell time at Boston is waiting for a Skegness bound service to come off the single line from the Sleaford direction?

 

[tramdan]

I presume that the dwell time at Boston is waiting for a Skegness bound service to come off the single line from the Sleaford direction?

Surprisingly not! The trains pass somewhere near Bellwater Junction SB.

 

[Whistler40145]

Surprisingly not! The trains pass somewhere near Bellwater Junction SB.

Thank you for your response

 

[Timpg]

East Suffolk up direction at halsworth. We had a certain diagram where we would be booked to wait 6 minutes, if travelling from previous station Brampton at line speed… we will also gain a few minutes to arrive at halsworth early. Extending the 6 minutes to nearly 10 minutes.
The issue with this is, that halsworth has a rather popular barrow crossing, with an instruction to not cross whilst there’s a train within the station.
As you can imagine, this causes issues with people loosing patience and crossing in front of you.
Thankfully they have changed this particular diagram in order to loose the extra minutes elsewhere.

 

[StarCrossing]

I don't have the exact timings and details to hand, but up until the timetable change a couple of weeks ago there was a Birmingham to Plymouth service leaving Birmingham at 16:42 which sat at Bristol Temple Meads for around 35 minutes.

 

[HST43257]

I don’t know if they still have the dwell but the Waterloo to Poole services (now Winchester to Poole?) used to have 26 mins iirc, from xx50 to xx16

 

[150249]

I can't think of a specific example but I think there is (or was) a Exmouth - Paignton service with a 20 minute wait at Dawlish Warren

 

[KK2109]

Due to engineering blocks around Birmingham on 26/02/2023 1S43 1031 Bristol Temple Meads to Edinburgh had a 45 mins dwell at Derby.

 

[aliceh]

I don’t know if they still have the dwell but the Waterloo to Poole services (now Winchester to Poole?) used to have 26 mins iirc, from xx50 to xx16

Sadly (thankfully?) that no longer happens. If memory serves, they also at one point had a fifteen minute dwell at Southampton Central in addition to the 26 minutes at Brockenhurst.

Incidentally, they've now 'resolved' it simply by taking the Winchester to Bournemouth train out of service at Southampton Central for half an hour (but not in the other direction)

 

[richw]

2C77 1300 Cardiff central to Penzance has a 16 min dwell at Plymouth. I assume to even things out for the even service timings through Cornwall

 

[Western 52]

1748 1B27 Paddington to Carmarthen has 34 minutes at Swansea.

 

[SteveM70]

The down Night Riviera is booked 65 minutes (public timetable) / 74 minutes (working timetable) at Taunton

 

[zwk500]

The down Night Riviera is booked 65 minutes (public timetable) / 74 minutes (working timetable) at Taunton

I'm presuming this is to facilitate the potential diversions, and not because there is a really good restaurant favoured by the crew nearby that stays open all night?

 

[43055]

Reading to Newcastle services normally have around 15 minutes at Derby.

 

[swt_passenger]

I don’t know if they still have the dwell but the Waterloo to Poole services (now Winchester to Poole?) used to have 26 mins iirc, from xx50 to xx16

That service has now been retimed, but in the down direction it is now two separate services split at Southampton. The stock goes to the sidings ECS. The 26 mins you remember (at Brockenhurst) was in addition to approx 20 mins at Southampton.

 

[sammyg901]

We have the opposite in Aylesbury - there is a train from Aylesbury Vale Parkway that terminates in Aylesbury at 1803 and then a servicing starting at Aylesbury to London Marylebone at 1818. Whenever I've noticed it's been the same unit that operates both, even when the inbound from London has been very late the 1818 has still waited for the unit to come in from AVP.

 

[duffman82]

The most obvious examples are the Avanti London-Scotlands via West Mids, which pause at Wolverhampton for 10-15 minutes as they're two separate paths stitched together.

No longer 15 mins. Its mearly 6-7 mins under the new TT

 

[pokemonsuper9]

There's the 3 Rainford (future Headbolt Lane) -> Blackburn that sit in Wallgate for 9 minutes arriving (11/15/19):11 leaving (11/15/19):20

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Realtime Trains | 2N90 1446 Rainford to Blackburn | 06/06/2023

Real-time train running information for 2N90 1446 departure from Rainford to Blackburn on 06/06/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Realtime Trains | 2N94 1852 Rainford to Blackburn | 06/06/2023

Real-time train running information for 2N94 1852 departure from Rainford to Blackburn on 06/06/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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These can be quite easily delayed by the xx:07 departure if it gets 2 mins late, as the trains usually make their way in a bit early

 

[zwk500]

No longer 15 mins. Its mearly 6-7 mins under the new TT

Good to hear, that's a handy saving (especially on platform capacity at Wolves.

 

[blue87]

Some Euston-Scotland Avanti services have 19 minutes at New Street.

 

[Trainguy34]

Some Euston-Scotland Avanti services have 19 minutes at New Street.

I think this was mentioned earlier in the thread, as far as I know the dwell was as it was 2 paths mashed together

 

[JD2168]

Sheffield to Scarborough services tend to have a long dwell time at Hull & also at Doncaster at certain times of the day.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

Sheffield to Scarborough services tend to have a long dwell time at Hull & also at Doncaster at certain times of the day.

Sheffield to Scarborough? Can't seem to find any of them in RTT to take a look at the numbers.

 

[12LDA28C]

We have the opposite in Aylesbury - there is a train from Aylesbury Vale Parkway that terminates in Aylesbury at 1803 and then a servicing starting at Aylesbury to London Marylebone at 1818. Whenever I've noticed it's been the same unit that operates both, even when the inbound from London has been very late the 1818 has still waited for the unit to come in from AVP.

Two separate trains with different headcodes so beyond the scope of this thread, surely?

 

[pokemonsuper9]

Two separate trains with different headcodes so beyond the scope of this thread, surely?

That's why they said "We have the opposite here"

 

[12LDA28C]

That's why they said "We have the opposite here"

A train terminating and starting later on a different service in the same direction is not really the opposite of anything, is it? I'm sure there are plenty of locations where that happens.