Trivia: Longest journey time between two consecutive stations

[mrd269697]

Believe it's just 35 minutes, if you exclude the 2 minutes dwell time at Carstairs.

A handful of others...

Berwick upon Tweed to Dunbar is typically 21 minutes.

Penrith North Lakes to Oxenholme Lake District is usually 22 minutes.

Similarly Hereford to Abergavenny is sometimes 22 minutes.

And one more... Sanquhar to Dumfries is usually 26 minutes.

Ahh I forgot about them! However Berwick and Dunbar will be off this list soon when Reston opens

 

[Mcr Warrior]

...Berwick and Dunbar will be off this list soon when Reston opens

Indeed. But we are where we are, just now.

Incidentally, in view of the paucity of direct services between Lockerbie and Carstairs, what alternative routeing is permitted for a potential return journey. Via Motherwell?

 

[Whistler40145]

Carlisle to Carnforth requires a staggering journey around the Cumbrian Coast line or going via the WCML to Lancaster and doubling back

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Carlisle to Carnforth requires a staggering journey around the Cumbrian Coast line or going via the WCML to Lancaster and doubling back

Indeed, but Carlisle and Carnforth are not consecutive stations, and so are off topic for the purposes of this thread.

 

[Roast Veg]

1h22 Melton Mowbray to Sileby must be pretty bad

 

[VideozVideoz]

What about Reddish South to Stockport? Parliamentary service to stalybridge only

Hellifield to Clitheroe is 3h+ (Ignoring Dalesrail on a Sunday)

 

[AverageTD]

I think that's a winner. 5 1/2 hours, via St Pancras, Lille Europe and a walk to Lille Flandres (until 2022)

Provided they return to the pre-COVID timetable eventually, there won't be a direct Calais>Ashford train so a turnback at Ebbsfleet is still required! That's a pretty incredible suggestion.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

1h22 Melton Mowbray to Sileby must be pretty bad

There's a 2056 weekday service from Melton Mowbray that gets into Sileby at 2141, travelling via Leicester, no changes required. Does beg the question as to whether Melton Mowbray and Sileby are then "consecutive" stations, the train having not traversed the Syston East Junction - Syston North Junction chord.

What about Reddish South to Stockport? Parliamentary service to stalybridge only

Could argue that there is a direct service between the two stations, albeit in the opposite direction only just now, taking 5 minutes.

Hellifield to Clitheroe is 3h+ (Ignoring Dalesrail on a Sunday)

23 minutes when the Sunday service does run.

 

[Efini92]

What about Reddish South to Stockport? Parliamentary service to stalybridge only

Hellifield to Clitheroe is 3h+ (Ignoring Dalesrail on a Sunday)

I thought the Stockport to staly ran both directions now?

 

[VideozVideoz]

I thought the Stockport to staly ran both directions now?

Since when?

 

[PTR 444]

There's a 2056 weekday service from Melton Mowbray that gets into Sileby at 2141, travelling via Leicester, no changes required. Does beg the question as to whether Melton Mowbray and Sileby are then "consecutive" stations, the train having not traversed the Syston East Junction - Syston North Junction chord.

If we are going down this rabbit hole, I nominate the 14:50 Dalton (Cumbria) - Askam service, taking 1hr 14mins

Could argue that there is a direct service between the two stations, albeit in the opposite direction only just now, taking 5 minutes.

Or alternatively you could do it by going via Guide Bridge and Man Picc

 

[Efini92]

Since when?

A few years ago.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

If we are going down this rabbit hole, I nominate the 14:50 Dalston (Cumbria) - Askam service, taking 1hr 14mins

Confused! Did you mean Dalton? Loads of intermediate stations between Dalston (Cumbria) and Askam.

 

[PTR 444]

Confused! Did you mean Dalton? Loads of intermediate stations between Dalston (Cumbria) and Askam.

Sorry, yes I did mean Dalton.

 

[VideozVideoz]

A few years ago.

Ok well you find me the train because I can’t find anything. It’s a parliamentary service cuz it runs once a week in 1 direction only

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Think that all regular passenger trains run via Barrow-in-Furness, but if we still consider Dalton and Askam to be "consecutive" stations, surely you can do Dalton -> Askam on a "direct" train, via Barrow, without changing, in as little as 25 minutes.

Ok well you find me the train because I can’t find anything. It’s a parliamentary service cuz it runs once a week in 1 direction only

These, presumably? See link below...

Realtime Trains | Departures from Reddish South between 0600 and 2000 on 25/09/2021

Train information at Reddish South between 0600 and 2000 on 25/09/2021. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[PTR 444]

Think that all regular passenger trains run via Barrow-in-Furness, but if we still consider Dalton and Askam to be "consecutive" stations, surely you can do Dalton -> Askam on a "direct" train, via Barrow, without changing, in as little as 25 minutes.

Yes that is possible, but I think anyone who’s just missed the 14:03 would disagree.

A better example of this kind might be Pewsey to Bruton. Fastest time between the two is 51 mins and in many cases the journey takes over 2 hours.

 

[Whistler40145]

What about Reddish South to Stockport? Parliamentary service to stalybridge only

Hellifield to Clitheroe is 3h+ (Ignoring Dalesrail on a Sunday)

That's when Northern have sufficient traincrew to operate the Dalesrail service, usually one of the first to get caped.

 

[mrd269697]

Indeed. But we are where we are, just now.

Incidentally, in view of the paucity of direct services between Lockerbie and Carstairs, what alternative routeing is permitted for a potential return journey. Via Motherwell?

I should probably know this considering I sell rail tickets for a living. I’ll look into this when I can.

also pre covid was there more services between Lockerbie and Carstairs? As it’s just the one northbound one at the moment.

 

[Efini92]

Ok well you find me the train because I can’t find anything. It’s a parliamentary service cuz it runs once a week in 1 direction only

I don’t think it’s been running over covid. But the last 10 or so times I drove it, it was booked in both directions.

 

[DynamicSpirit]

Is this thread confined to strictly national rail services? If so, then Greenford to South Ruislip is quite a tricky journey! (Of course, if you allow London Underground, then they cease to be consecutive stations, and the journey becomes trivial).

 

[Efini92]

Ok well you find me the train because I can’t find anything. It’s a parliamentary service cuz it runs once a week in 1 direction only

It still runs both ways

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Is this thread confined to strictly national rail services? If so, then Greenford to South Ruislip is quite a tricky journey!

Does any passenger train service still run from/via Greenford and then directly to/through South Ruislip, stopping or not?

Once took the now discontinued (?) parliamentary train from South Ruislip into Paddington which presumably skirted past Greenford, but that was almost a decade ago now!

 

[VideozVideoz]

That's when Northern have sufficient traincrew to operate the Dalesrail service, usually one of the first to get caped.

Yeah been noticing that actually!!

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It still runs both ways

Well it’s not showing in any national rail journey planner

These, presumably? See link below...

Realtime Trains | Departures from Reddish South between 0600 and 2000 on 25/09/2021

Train information at Reddish South between 0600 and 2000 on 25/09/2021. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Nothing is showing for this service in any planner

 

[Efini92]

That's when Northern have sufficient traincrew to operate the Dalesrail service, usually one of the first to get caped.

It was a farce that Blackpool were given that service to operate from the start.

Yeah been noticing that actually!!


Well it’s not showing in any national rail journey planner


Nothing is showing for this service in any planner

Real time trains shows it as running both ways.

here’s the old diagram.

 

[Bill57p9]

Lockerbie to Kirknewton?
I am reasonably confident that no trains stop at both, so travel is only via Haymarket or (once in a blue moon) Carstairs.

 

[LRV3004]

Isn't there a Picc-Wakefield that stops at Guide Bridge once a day?

No. I think a while back there was a 1700 Piccadilly to Huddersfield using a 158 unit. All I remember about that one was that it stopped at Ardwick, giving the strange opportunity to travel direct from Ardwick to Huddersfield!

 

[norbitonflyer]

Indeed, but Carlisle and Carnforth are not consecutive stations, and so are off topic for the purposes of this thread.

Oxenholme and Carnforth?

Does any passenger train service still run from/via Greenford and then directly to/through South Ruislip, stopping or not?

Once took the now discontinued (?) parliamentary train from South Ruislip into Paddington which presumably skirted past Greenford, but that was almost a decade ago now!

The South Ruislip to Paddington was diverted a few years back to run to West Ealing instead. However, in neither case did it call at,or passthrough, Greenford station as there are no platforms on the through line. (The bay is part of the Tube station - there are of course plenty of trains between South Ruislip and Greenford if LU services are included)

 

[The Planner]

How much can we bend the rules with this? How about Lichfield Trent Valley to Burton, and Tutbury & Hatton to Attenborough?

 

[Dai Corner]

Have we had Patchway-Pilning?

The Down platform at Pilning is about 3 miles or so from Patchway and has been closed since the footbridge was removed for electrification. The Up platform is served by just two trains a week, both on Saturdays. Journey planners give a nearly 3 hour journey doubling back via Newport.