Trivia: Major cities which don't have any electrified lines, on the National Rail network?

[zwk500]

Scarborough - (62k pop)
Salisbury - (42k)
Halifax - (88k)
Hartlepool - (88k)
Skegness - (21k)
Great Yarmouth - (100k for BUA)

Somewhat stretching the definition of a major city to include a town of 20,000 people, isn't it?

 

[Ken H]

Somewhat stretching the definition of a major city to include a town of 20,000 people, isn't it?

Harrogate (75k) tops all those. I got that from Wiki. But is that Harrogate District (Incl Knaresborough, Pateley Br and Ripon) or just the town.

 

[ijmad]

Somewhat stretching the definition of a major city to include a town of 20,000 people, isn't it?

Lol fair point, it's a relatively well known destination at least.

 

[zwk500]

Lol fair point, it's a relatively well known destination at least.

Yes but then so is Loch Ness.

I personally would say a 'major' town/city has at least c.250k population in it's general area (can be separate settlements) and is a major economic centre for it's region. Obviously in some areas there are large towns that are overshadowed at a wider level by an adjacent dominant settlement, so it won't be cut & dried.

 

[sir_gummerz]

Middlesborough
This map of electrification of British railways is very useful if you wanna picture it. https://railmap.azurewebsites.net/Public/ElectrificationMap

Thank you for sharing that, it's interesting to see just how many gaps remain across the country

 

[Lemmy282]

Sheffield has also had multiple promises of an electrified link to London that have yet to materialise, which must give it some sort of award as the city with the most unfortunate relationship with electrified mainline railways.

I reckon we were promised that when local MP Nick Clegg and David Cameron were joint PM's just to get his support, when Clegg lost his seat the electrification seemed to go with him!

 

[matchmaker]

Turning the question a bit on its head, what's the smallest UK city that is on an electrified NR line? City of London is my guess.

 

[birchesgreen]

Turning the question a bit on its head, what's the smallest UK city that is on an electrified NR line? City of London is my guess.

Smallest city with a railway as well isn't it?

 

[Ken H]

Turning the question a bit on its head, what's the smallest UK city that is on an electrified NR line? City of London is my guess.

smallest by population or surface area.

 

[AM9]

Turning the question a bit on its head, what's the smallest UK city that is on an electrified NR line? City of London is my guess.

Apart from the City of London which after all is a business district with a few thousand residents (8582), I'd say Ely (20112).

 

[scrapy]

Yes it's Ely after City of London then Chichester, Lichfield, Carlisle and Durham, based on 2021 census population data.

 

[Y Ddraig Coch]

Swansea

 

[matchmaker]

Yes it's Ely after City of London then Chichester, Lichfield, Carlisle and Durham, based on 2021 census population data.

Stirling is smaller than Carlisle or Durham.

 

[BeijingDave]

Yes but then so is Loch Ness.

I personally would say a 'major' town/city has at least c.250k population in it's general area (can be separate settlements) and is a major economic centre for it's region. Obviously in some areas there are large towns that are overshadowed at a wider level by an adjacent dominant settlement, so it won't be cut & dried.

I would say that is a high bar and would exclude many 'major towns'/smaller cities of around 100,000 people. Cheltenham, for example.

 

[Irascible]

and is a major economic centre for it's region

I think "OR is a major economic centre" would fit better. There's certainly cities that'd fit that.

 

[Western Sunset]

Swansea

Think the carriage sidings at Maliphant were wired up, then de-wired when the scope of the GWML was reduced. Once upon a time there were the electrics running to the Mumbles...

 

[scrapy]

Stirling is smaller than Carlisle or Durham.

Very true sorry didn't realise it was electrified.

 

[Y Ddraig Coch]

Think the carriage sidings at Maliphant were wired up, then de-wired when the scope of the GWML was reduced. Once upon a time there were the electrics running to the Mumbles...

But not now, so counts as a large city 245k without electric.

 

[AM9]

Swansea

Correct, - as posted in post #9.