The class 17 ended up in industrial use, Castle Cement amongst others from what I remember? A pretty remarkable survivor though definitely.
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Trivia: Rarest BR locos to survive into preservation
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The class 17 ended up in industrial use, Castle Cement amongst others from what I remember? A pretty remarkable survivor though definitely.
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Strathclyder
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D8568 is a real survivor, and her path to preservation was virtually identical to many Class 14s: one or more industrial owner.
She went to Hemilite of Harpenden straight from Polmadie, working under her own power between Glasgow and Harpenden on 11th September 1972. She would remain there until June 1977, when she was sold on again to Castle Cement (known back then as Ribble Cement) of Clitheroe, again working under her own power on the metals of her original owner back north on 20th June 1977. The DTG bought her from Ribble (plus all the stocked Clayton spares they had) and she left for the North Yorkshire Moors Railway on 9th February 1983, this time by road.
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Ashley Hill
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I wonder if there are any photos of that move?
Strathclyder
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Or of the Polmadie - Harpenden move. Would be real interesting to see pics of either move if they exist. My affinity for the Claytons as a whole stems largely from the fact they made their base in/around Glasgow for most of their short careers. That, and the fact those two Paxmans sound so supple at full power:
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Class 07's spring to mind too.
Ashley Hill
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Honorary mention should go to the sole surviving class 12 shunter 15224.
Sun Chariot
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The sole Derby Lightweight Battery Multiple Unit. A link to its restoration, is off Railcar's Web page below:
Battery Multiple Unit
The history of Diesel Multiple Units (DMUs / railcars) in Britain.
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D6130
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I believe that the diminutive Lancashire & Yorkshire narrow gauge saddle tank loco 'Wren' - which spent its working life at Horwich Works - has been preserved. Is it in the National Railway Museum?
matchmaker
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Five out of the eight being NBL products...
Strathclyder
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As do some 08s and a few of the outwardly similar 10s.
The 50s would be within a shout here too I would have thought. But you're right, it's a topic best suited for it's own thread.
Ah, Vulcan. Cracking wee thing imho (have always been a sucker for the less successful diesel types). A slightly enlarged 08 or a shrunk-down 15/16 in profile and layout (which I think was part of the issue with the design; didn't fit into either bracket and was left floating somewhere in the middle; has found it's niche in preservation though!).
06003/D2420. Currently at Peak Rail in Rowsley, as part of the Heritage Shunters Trust collection.
Two for me please: one in that fetching version of BR Green they carried and the other in BR Blue.A 29 would have been nice!
D6130
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Yes indeed. Although they were charismatic designs, they were very poor quality products in most respects. Unfortunately the NBL Co. was geared-up for building steam locos to imperial measurements and did not adapt well to building diesels to metric ones.
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Strathclyder
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A Provan Gas Works loco dating from 1946, built by Andrew Barclay in Kilmarnock, named Dougal, and built to a 2ft 6in gauge and 0-4-0 wheel arrangement, survives at the Welshpool & Llanfair Light Railway.
Those wouldn’t count as ‘BR’ as per thread title! Unless it means operated by rather than built by/for?
Only one known at least! Another was exported to Italy, but details of where it went after anrrival are sketchy. A long lost 03 did reappear over there a few years ago so there’s a slim chance this one could still be around. https://features.rcts.org.uk/diesel...ex-br-03s-06-07-exported-trieste-italy/d2432/
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Strathclyder
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Hmmm, fair point well taken. Perhaps this is another potential off-topic deviation that requires it's own thread?
anothertyke
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O/T Is it true that 60004 never visited KX in the last ten years of steam on the ECML despite having a corridor tender?
westernpunk
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and class 43 warships another nbl product
It made a few appearances on the Elizabethan, but was never Haymarket’s first choice. In 1958 it worked the up train into Kings Cross on 24th August and returned north the next day on the down train. This was 60004’s last appearance in Kings Cross on the ‘Lizzie’.
anothertyke
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Thank you. So the folk tale I was told..... need to go to Newcastle or Edinburgh, completely impossible of course.... was nearly true.
Spamcan81
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IIRC three railway works n.g. locos have survived. Two steam : Horwich Works ‘Pet’ and Crewe Works ‘Wren’ and one diesel : Horwich Works ZM32.
Chesterton Jct. PW works had two n.g. Simplex locos but no idea if either have survived.
The surviving Class 17 is D8568.
D6130
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Yep....even though D8512/21/98 survived in BR service much longer than their sisters, working for the Derby Research Centre - latterly on the Mickleover test track IIRC.
Ashley Hill
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If most preservationists at the time were not pre-occupying themselves with rescuing yet another Barry wreck or importing foreign steam locos then these and other rare diesels may have stood a chance of surviving!
The Steeple Grange Light Railway have an (adorable) 18” gauge Ruston & Hornsby diesel which was built for Horwich works.
ZM-32 | Steeple Grange Light Railway
There’s also a 1911-built 3’ gauge Bagnall 0-4-0ST at the Amerton Railway in Staffordshire, which BR purchased in 1956 to work at the sleeper depot in Beeston, Notts.
W.G. Bagnall No. 1889 "No. 1" - Amerton Railway
18.03.08 Purchase of Bagnall No. 1 New locomotive addition Bagnall No. 1 arrived at Amerton from Cambridgeshire on 18th March 2008. A more detailed description is given in Bagnall No. 1 by John Strike. This is in .pdf format, and so to read it you will...Read more
amertonrailway.co.uk
Both Chesterton locos survive, one at Mountsorrel & the other at the Ashover light Railway
We have a Hunslet, a Ruston and a Barclay amongst others at Doon Valley (Ayrshire) https://doonvalleyrailway.co.uk/narrow-gauge-railway
Strathclyder
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Merely a typo, now corrected. Cheers for pointing it out to me.
norbitonflyer
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Difficult to beat the Class 89 - only one built and it has been preserved. Likewise Duke of Gloucester
Class 111 (twin/triple) 0.3/24 (1%) one trailer buffet car - some records have it as a class 101
Class 118 (triple) 0.3/15 (2%) one power car preserved
Class 106 (twin) 0.5/14 (4%) All power cars converted to class 105, one driving trailer preserved)
Class 06 1/25 (4%)
Class 81 1/25 (4%)
Class 71/74 1/24 (4%)
Class 28 1/20 (5%)
Class 83 1/15 (7%)
Class 82 1/10 (10%)
Class 84 1/10 (10%)
Class 103 (twin) 2.5/20 (12%)
Class 44 2/10 (20%)
Class 109 (twin) 1/5 (20%)
Class 48 1/5 (20%) converted to, and preserved as, class 47
Class 207 (triple) 4/19 (21%)
Class 202 (hex) 2/9 (22%)
Class 55 5/22 (23%)
Class 77 2/7 (29%)
Class 201 (hex) 2/7 (29%)
Class 02 7/20 (35%)
Class 122 7/20 (35%)
Class 07 5/14(36%)
Class 121 6/16 (38%)
Class 01 2/5 (40%)
Class 41 (HST) 1/2 (50%)
Class 403 (quin) 2.8/3 (93%) All fifteen cars originally preserved, but one subsequently written off in a fire.
Class 89 1/1 (100%)
Class 140 (twin) 1/1 (100%)
No examples preserved
Class 29 20 built
Class 16 10
Class 23 10 (one replica under construction)
Class 41 (NBL) 5
Class 13 3
Class 70 (SR) 3
Class 112 (25 twin units built)
Class 113 (25 twin)
Class 125 (20 triple)
Class 123 (10 quads)
Class 128 (10 single)
Class 124 (8.5 six-car)
Class 203 (7 six-car)
Class 251 (5 six/eight car)
Class 129 (3 single)
Class 210 (2 three/four car) (one DTSO preserved)
EDITED for class 111
8203, 8233, 8237, 8243, numbered ADB968003/001/002/000 in that order
HST have examples of every class from 01 to 09.
06003/D2420. Currently at Peak Rail in Rowsley, as part of the Heritage Shunters Trust collection.
That would be terribly confusuing, as the original 13101 still exists, (later D3101, no TOPS number carried as it was sold into industrial use in 1972)
That's the electric APT-P - "P" for pre-production (class 370). I understand the OP meant the gas-turbine powered APT-E (for experimental), which is now in the NRM at Shildon, which carried a few [passengers on demonstration runs but never went in to revenue service (or received a TOPS class)
The class 44s haven't done badly at 20% (two out of 10)
Officially that was two units (albeit they usually ran as one train)
Taking "rare" as being 25 or fewer examples built, but disregarding class 59 as they are all still in serviceDifficult to beat the Class 89 - only one built and it has been preserved. Likewise Duke of Gloucester
8203, 8233, 8237, 8243, numbered ADB968003/001/002/000 in that order
HST have examples of every class from 01 to 09
That would be terribly confusuing, as the original 13101 still exists, (later D3101, no TOPS number carried as it was sold into industrial use in 1972)
That's the electric APT-P - "P" for pre-production (class 370). I understand the OP meant the gas-turbine powered APT-E (for experimental), which is now in the NRM at Shildon, which carried a few [passengers on demonstration runs but never went in to revenue service (or received a TOPS class)
The class 44s haven't done badly at 20% (two out of 10)
Officially that was two units (albeit they usually ran as one train)
Class 111 (twin/triple) 0.3/24 (1%) one trailer buffet car - some records have it as a class 101
Class 118 (triple) 0.3/15 (2%) one power car preserved
Class 106 (twin) 0.5/14 (4%) All power cars converted to class 105, one driving trailer preserved)
Class 06 1/25 (4%)
Class 81 1/25 (4%)
Class 71/74 1/24 (4%)
Class 28 1/20 (5%)
Class 83 1/15 (7%)
Class 82 1/10 (10%)
Class 84 1/10 (10%)
Class 103 (twin) 2.5/20 (12%)
Class 44 2/10 (20%)
Class 109 (twin) 1/5 (20%)
Class 48 1/5 (20%) converted to, and preserved as, class 47
Class 207 (triple) 4/19 (21%)
Class 202 (hex) 2/9 (22%)
Class 55 5/22 (23%)
Class 77 2/7 (29%)
Class 201 (hex) 2/7 (29%)
Class 02 7/20 (35%)
Class 122 7/20 (35%)
Class 07 5/14(36%)
Class 121 6/16 (38%)
Class 01 2/5 (40%)
Class 41 (HST) 1/2 (50%)
Class 403 (quin) 2.8/3 (93%) All fifteen cars originally preserved, but one subsequently written off in a fire.
Class 89 1/1 (100%)
Class 140 (twin) 1/1 (100%)
No examples preserved
Class 29 20 built
Class 16 10
Class 23 10 (one replica under construction)
Class 41 (NBL) 5
Class 13 3
Class 70 (SR) 3
Class 112 (25 twin units built)
Class 113 (25 twin)
Class 125 (20 triple)
Class 123 (10 quads)
Class 128 (10 single)
Class 124 (8.5 six-car)
Class 203 (7 six-car)
Class 251 (5 six/eight car)
Class 129 (3 single)
Class 210 (2 three/four car) (one DTSO preserved)
EDITED for class 111
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Difficult to beat the Class 89 - only one built and it has been preserved. Likewise Duke of Gloucester
8203, 8233, 8237, 8243, numbered ADB968003/001/002/000 in that order
HST have examples of every class from 01 to 09
That would be terribly confusuing, as the original 13101 still exists, (later D3101, no TOPS number carried as it was sold into industrial use in 1972)
That's the electric APT-P - "P" for pre-production (class 370). I understand the OP meant the gas-turbine powered APT-E (for experimental), which is now in the NRM at Shildon, which carried a few [passengers on demonstration runs but never went in to revenue service (or received a TOPS class)
The class 44s haven't done badly at 20% (two out of 10)
Officially that was two units (albeit they usually ran as one train)
Taking "rare" as being 25 or fewer examples built, but disregarding class 59 as they are all still in service
Class 118 (triple) 0.3/15 (2%) one power car preserved
Class 106 (twin) 0.5/14 (4%) All converted to class 105, one driving trailer preserved)
Class 06 1/25 (4%)
Class 81 1/25 (4%)
Class 71/74 1/24 (4%)
Class 28 1/20 (5%)
Class 83 1/15 (7%)
Class 82 1/10 (10%)
Class 84 1/10 (10%)
Class 202 (hex) 2/9 (11%)
Class 103 (twin) 2.5/20 (12%)
Class 44 2/10 (20%)
Class 109 (twin) 1/5 (20%)
Class 48 1/5 (20%) converted to, and preserved as, class 47
Class 207 (triple) 4/19 (21%)
Class 55 5/22 (23%)
Class 77 2/7 (29%)
Class 201 (hex) 2/7 (29%)
Class 02 7/20 (35%)
Class 122 7/20 (35%)
Class 07 5/14(36%)
Class 121 6/16 (38%)
Class 01 2/5 (40%)
Class 41 (HST) 1/2 (50%)
Class 403 (quin) 2.8/3 (93%) All fifteen cars originally preserved, but one subsequently written off in a fire.
Class 89 1/1 (100%)
Class 140 (twin) 1/1 (100%)
No examples preserved
Class 112 (twin) (25 built)
Class 113 (twin) 25
Class 111 (twin/triple) 24
Class 29 20
Class 125 (triple) 20
Class 16 10
Class 23 10 (one replica under construction)
Class 123 (quad) 10
Class 128 10
Class 124 (hex) 8.5
Class 203 (hex) 7
Class 41 (NBL) 5
Class 251 5
Class 13 3
Class 70 (SR) 3
Class 129 3
Class 210 2 (one DTSO preserved)
Blimey that must have taken some effort!