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Thornaby 37 said:
Bargoed to Gilfach Fargoed
And you can even walk from one to the other in 15 minutes
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Fargoed is actually Bargoed, mutated by the preceding word.

In the same way that Cymru becomes 'Croeso i Gymru' (Welcome to Wales), Bargoed becomes Fargoed, Pontypridd becomes Bontypridd and so on. So, a Welsh speaker would likely say it doesn't count.

Interestingly, Welsh is one of the few (surviving) languages that does this.
 
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BeijingDave said:
Fargoed is actually Bargoed, mutated by the preceding word.

In the same way that Cymru becomes 'Croeso i Gymru' (Welcome to Wales), Bargoed becomes Fargoed, Pontypridd becomes Bontypridd and so on. So, a Welsh speaker would likely say it doesn't count.

Interestingly, Welsh is one of the few (surviving) languages that does this.
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(My bolding) -- for different grammatical "cases", modifying the word at its beginning, rather than at its end (the latter, more common for languages which do that stuff): the at-the-beginning procedure a speciality, I believe, of the Celtic tongues. Doing the thing this way, I gather is called by the learned scholars, "lenition" -- splendid word, which came my way by chance not very long ago.
 
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Mcr Warrior said:
Shouldn't that actually be Barrow-in-Furness (or Barrow-upon-Soar) to Harrow-on-the-Hill (or maybe Harrow & Wealdstone) so none really rhyming? Just saying! ;)
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B****r! I thought I would get away with it! Should have known better on this forum. You're right of course!

What about Kidwelly to Lochgelly?
 
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BeijingDave said:
Dewsbury and Shrewsbury only rhyme if you're working class.
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They rhyme for me and by just about any definition you care to name I'm middle class. Maybe it's a regional thing which doesn't necessarily align with class (I was born and grew up in Reading).
 
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@BeijingDave said: Dewsbury and Shrewsbury only rhyme if you're working class.
duffield said:
They rhyme for me and by just about any definition you care to name I'm middle class. Maybe it's a regional thing which doesn't necessarily align with class (I was born and grew up in Reading).
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There has been quite copious discussion on the Forums, over time, concerning pronunciation of the county town of Shropshire (most recently, I think on "General Discussion", thread Shrewsbury or Shrowsbury? -- OP 26/1/2023). On that thread, it seems to have been reckoned that: although there's perhaps a little bit of a tendency toward, as above, "toffs say 'Shrow" and oiks say 'Shrew' " : overall -- a pretty randomly wide spread of people: use one pronunciation, or the other -- neither particularly right or wrong. To complicate things: yet another pronunciation -- "Shewsbury", without the "r" -- obtains quite widely in the town: favoured rather by, shall we say, "less posh" folk.
 
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Calthrop said:
@BeijingDave said: Dewsbury and Shrewsbury only rhyme if you're working class.

There has been quite copious discussion on the Forums, over time, concerning pronunciation of the county town of Shropshire (most recently, I think on "General Discussion", thread Shrewsbury or Shrowsbury? -- OP 26/1/2023). On that thread, it seems to have been reckoned that: although there's perhaps a little bit of a tendency toward, as above, "toffs say 'Shrow" and oiks say 'Shrew' " : overall -- a pretty randomly wide spread of people: use one pronunciation, or the other -- neither particularly right or wrong. To complicate things: yet another pronunciation -- "Shewsbury", without the "r" -- obtains quite widely in the town: favoured rather by, shall we say, "less posh" folk.
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I'd also add that probably the further you get from Shrewsbury, the more likely it is that people will be totally unfamiliar with the place and will rarely hear it mentioned, and so are more likely to default to "shrew" because of the small furry mammal which, as far as I know, is never referred to as a "shrow". :)

As an aside, this from wikipedia made me chuckle: "True shrews are not to be confused with treeshrews".
 
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Calthrop said:
@BeijingDave said: Dewsbury and Shrewsbury only rhyme if you're working class.

There has been quite copious discussion on the Forums, over time, concerning pronunciation of the county town of Shropshire (most recently, I think on "General Discussion", thread Shrewsbury or Shrowsbury? -- OP 26/1/2023). On that thread, it seems to have been reckoned that: although there's perhaps a little bit of a tendency toward, as above, "toffs say 'Shrow" and oiks say 'Shrew' " : overall -- a pretty randomly wide spread of people: use one pronunciation, or the other -- neither particularly right or wrong. To complicate things: yet another pronunciation -- "Shewsbury", without the "r" -- obtains quite widely in the town: favoured rather by, shall we say, "less posh" folk.
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To confuse the issue further, many fans of the local football team refer to the town as Salop.
 
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Darlington to Pontefract

Or...

Darlo to Pontecarlo
 
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BeijingDave said:
Fargoed is actually Bargoed, mutated by the preceding word.

In the same way that Cymru becomes 'Croeso i Gymru' (Welcome to Wales), Bargoed becomes Fargoed, Pontypridd becomes Bontypridd and so on. So, a Welsh speaker would likely say it doesn't count.

Interestingly, Welsh is one of the few (surviving) languages that does this.
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Could always make it Bargoed to Mytholmroyd. Or Hengoed to any of them, etc.

Penychain to Ashton-under-Lyne

Llanfair to Redmire, if the preserved lines and the walk across Y Trallwng are allowed.
 
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Pigeon said:
Penychain to Ashton-under-Lyne
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Penychain to Headbolt Lane, surely? My memory of the very long announcements for Cambrian services definitely had Penychain pronounced as it's written... suppose some accents might have it ending more like "Chine" though. The "Lyne" of Ashton is a homophone of "line".
 
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Penychain to Headbolt Lane, surely? My memory of the very long announcements for Cambrian services definitely had Penychain pronounced as it's written... suppose some accents might have it ending more like "Chine" though. The "Lyne" of Ashton is a homophone of "line".
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Allowing for pronunciation, how about Rye to Milngavie?

Another thought. Truro and Westward Ho! rhyme nicely. You even get an exclamation mark thrown in for emphasis. Just a pity that the Bideford,Westward Ho! and Appledore was never connected to the rest of the network.

EDIT Thurso to Westward Ho! would be a longer run, but with the same limitation. We'd better settle for Thurso to Truro instead.
 
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