Trivia: Scheduled CrossCountry services that don't serve Birmingham New Street

[cuccir]

I found this thread on non London-serving VTEC services quite interesting - about where, how and why services end up running which don't serve the core stations of a TOC's network. In light of that I thought I'd start a similar thread for CrossCountry.

Birmingham New Street is of course at the heart of their network. But what remains around the edges? There are couple on my morning commute - the newly extended 06:25 from York to Glasgow, with a return run leaving Glasgow at 19:00, as well as the 05:56 from Derby to Newcastle.

Any others!?

 

[PHILIPE]

These trains are legs of the core route starting or terminating elsewhere first thing in the morning or last thing at night.

 

[route101]

Theres a few between Glasgow and Edinburgh and Edinburgh and Aberdeen im sure . That Glasgow to York reminds me of GNER service around that time that went to York or Doncaster

 

[swt_passenger]

1D34 0756 Southampton Central to Bournemouth? New this week.

 

[STKKK46]

2A00 0600 Derby to Nottingham. Booked Voyager and a 2xxx headcode... can't be many of those.

 

[STKKK46]

Also 2A01 0642 Dundee to Aberdeen.

 

[Starmill]

2A00 0600 Derby to Nottingham. Booked Voyager and a 2xxx headcode... can't be many of those.

2C80 2210 Penzance to Plymouth

Also
1D00 0700 Dunbar to Glasgow Central
1P00 0520 Bristol Temple Meads to Cardiff Central
1S29 0625 York to Glasgow Central
1E80 1900 Glasgow Central to York

and
2K51 0444 Cambridge to Stansted Airport
2K52 0517 Cambridge to Stansted Airport
2K53 0632 Cambridge to Stansted Airport
2K57 0740 Cambridge to Stansted Airport
2K90 2127 Stansted Airport to Cambridge
2K94 2227 Stansted Airport to Cambridge
2K98 2257 Stansted Airport to Cambridge

 

[Kite159]

A few start/end of day services in Scotland:

2A01 0642 Dundee to Aberdeen
1B61 2131 Aberdeen to Edinburgh
0624 Edinburgh to Glasgow Central
1C99 2105 Glasgow Central to Edinburgh

 

[cuccir]

A few start/end of day services in Scotland:

2A01 0642 Dundee to Aberdeen
1B61 2131 Aberdeen to Edinburgh
0624 Edinburgh to Glasgow Central
1C99 2105 Glasgow Central to Edinburgh

Are these (plus the service mentioned by Starmill) the only services entirely within Scotland that are not operated by ScotRail?

 

[cuccir]

1D00 0700 Dunbar to Glasgow Central

I'm intrigued why this would start in Dunbar? Given that it has to travel as an ECS from Edinburgh to get there, and that there's the 07:42 getting into Edinburgh just after 08:00 for the morning commuters - is there really the market for that from Dunbar?

 

[Nev20]

On a Sunday there's a Sheffield-Edinburgh/Glasgow starter. 9:21 I think?

 

[voyagerdude220]

1C11 06:34 Bristol Temple M to Plymouth. I believe this runs via Worle on weekdays, but departs at 06:08 on Saturdays and runs via Bath Spa and Westbury.

 

[fraser158]

Are these (plus the service mentioned by Starmill) the only services entirely within Scotland that are not operated by ScotRail?

There’s also a Sunday only 0910 Virgin Trains East Coast Edinburgh to Aberdeen.

 

[380gk]

1D00 is always mobbed from Dunbar to Edinburgh. There are quite a few who travel the whole way to Glasgow too.
Tha train also has a catering trolley that does a great trade too.

 

[cuccir]

1D00 is always mobbed from Dunbar to Edinburgh. There are quite a few who travel the whole way to Glasgow too.
Tha train also has a catering trolley that does a great trade too.

The good people of Dunbar obviously get up early in the morning!

 

[Deafdoggie]

06:28 MX 0600 MO Plymouth to Penzance-now with catering!

 

[route101]

1D00 is always mobbed from Dunbar to Edinburgh. There are quite a few who travel the whole way to Glasgow too.
Tha train also has a catering trolley that does a great trade too.

I was on the 1512 XC from Edinburgh to Glasgow and was surprised to see the catering trolley .

 

[83G/84D]

06:28 MX 0600 MO Plymouth to Penzance-now with catering!

Really?! Cross country are providing catering in Cornwall! Why this particular service then?

 

[Deafdoggie]

Really?! Cross country are providing catering in Cornwall! Why this particular service then?

It is now on the 09:35 from Penzance to Manchester all the way! No more waiting till Plymouth

 

[83G/84D]

Thanks, not a train I travel on at all but good news for people who do.

 

[Highlandspring]

Are these (plus the service mentioned by Starmill) the only services entirely within Scotland that are not operated by ScotRail?

There’s also a Sunday only 0910 Virgin Trains East Coast Edinburgh to Aberdeen.

And the Caledonian Sleeper portions of course...
1Y11 04:50 Edinburgh - Fort William
1B01 19:50 Fort William - Edinburgh
1A25 04:40 Edinburgh - Aberdeen
1B16 21:43 Aberdeen - Edinburgh
1C11 23:40 Edinburgh - Carstairs
1B26 06:40 Carstairs - Edinburgh

Not forgetting the West Coast Railways operated...
2Y61 10:15 Fort William - Mallaig
2Y62 14:11 Mallaig - Fort William
2Y68 14:45 Fort William - Mallaig
2Y69 18:40 Mallaig - Fort William

....as well as all the various legs of the Belmond/GBRf Royal Scotsman from April to October.

 

[SWTrainspottin]

1900 Newquay - Plymouth (Summer saturday)
0900 Plymouth - Newquay (Summer sunday)

 

[ValleyLines142]

0556 Derby to Newcastle?