Two 'Two Together Railcard' for 3 people - not valid?

[richw]

From the wording of the T&Cs I'm pretty sure should a TOC to try and prosecute for invalid tickets they'd fail on a group of 3 with person 2 on both person 1 & 3s two together.

The wording says they have to travel together, doesn't say anything more sufficient to invalidate a group of 3 with 2 valid two together cards.

The T&Cs are too brief in my opinion.

 

[talldave]

I'm not really sure why the TOCs would be so against someone purchasing two Railcards for when they wish to travel with two different people on the same journey.

I believe they intended to offer a discount when pairs of tickets are purchased. So one railcard, two tickets, two railcards, four tickets, etc. But in true rail industry style, they've screwed up on the T's & C's. So I agree that they'd have trouble trying to take action against the party of three example discussed.

 

[Wallsendmag]

So are two family railcards valid for Five adults and one child ?

 

[talldave]

So are two family railcards valid for Five adults and one child ?

No, unless the child has two tickets, one from each "Group" (the term used in the Ts & Cs).

 

[Romilly]

So are two family railcards valid for Five adults and one child ?

Brilliant question, but I don't think I would want to try it, not even with two tickets for the child.

 

[Tetchytyke]

So are two family railcards valid for Five adults and one child ?

Each group must have one adult and one child in it. I think you'd be struggling to say a child can be in more than one group at any one time.

The Two Together Railcard simply says the two cardholders must be travelling together. Which with two railcards between three people, they are.

 

[Romilly]

I think you'd be struggling to say a child can be in more than one group at any one time.

Indeed. You would have to draw a Venn diagram, with two partly overlapping circles, with the child in the overlap.

I also wondered whether it would help if adults A and B were the named holders on one card, and adults A and C were the named holders on the other card, and adult A was actually travelling. But as I've said, I don't think I'd try it.