Virgin Trains EC 1Y44 breakdown (13/07)

[gavin]

1Y44 has lost all power near Sandy it broke down around 19:32 and as of 21:15 it still hasn't moved Thunderbird is on site

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y60067/2017/07/13/advanced

 

[gavin]

Just seen on Twitter that the 1st Thunderbird broke down and another has had to be called presumably from Doncaster?

 

[Crossover]

Now on the way, 142L

 

[SpacePhoenix]

Is that it going ECS as 5c48 currently passing through Welwyn Graden City?

 

[Crossover]

5C48 is an ECS Great Northern unit from Peterborough to Kings Cross

 

[SpacePhoenix]

It must have already made it to Kings X when I looked

 

[Crossover]

I would guess that it would have gone straight to Bounds Green from Stevenage, where it terminated. If they followed usual convention, I would expect it to have run as 5Y11

Does anyone know if this was a HST as looking at other dates, this set may then go on to work the Sunderland service?

 

[800001]

I would guess that it would have gone straight to Bounds Green from Stevenage, where it terminated. If they followed usual convention, I would expect it to have run as 5Y11

Does anyone know if this was a HST as looking at other dates, this set may then go on to work the Sunderland service?

It was a Mk4 set.

 

[43096]

I would guess that it would have gone straight to Bounds Green from Stevenage, where it terminated. If they followed usual convention, I would expect it to have run as 5Y11

Does anyone know if this was a HST as looking at other dates, this set may then go on to work the Sunderland service?

Normal procedure is for failed VTEC HSTs to go to Neville Hill or Craigentinny and Mark 4 sets to go to Bounds Green. In other words, sets go to where the expertise is on that train type.

 

[gavin]

1D33 2135 London Kings Cross to Leeds had to be rescued by Thunderbird it must have had a fault for a while as it started losing time from Finsbury Park before eventually giving up between Adwick Jn & South Kirkby Jn originally due into Leeds at 00:08 it finally arrive at 02:53 around 33 minutes after the 23:30 departure from Kings Cross arrived into Leeds

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y60132/2017/07/14/advanced

 

[godfreycomplex]

1D33 2135 London Kings Cross to Leeds had to be rescued by Thunderbird it must have had a fault for a while as it started losing time from Finsbury Park before eventually giving up between Adwick Jn & South Kirkby Jn originally due into Leeds at 00:08 it finally arrive at 02:53 around 33 minutes after the 23:30 departure from Kings Cross arrived into Leeds

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y60132/2017/07/14/advanced

Indeed. Sat down at Frickley Beck (about a mile London side of South Elmsall) at about 00:15. 1Z99 (the Thunderbird) left Donny at about 01:00; suggesting the driver tried to restart the failed train; but the problem was fairly terminal.
The failed train didn't get going until about 02:20 for reasons unclear (I think there may have been some trouble getting the Thunderbird to the front of the train but I'm not sure).
Deep joy....

 

[Adam0984]

I'd imagine that the thunderbird would have had to go via Hambleton to get to the front of the train then use the main to main crossover at South Kirby Jcn to get on the front to pull it to Leeds

 

[godfreycomplex]

I'd imagine that the thunderbird would have had to go via Hambleton to get to the front of the train then use the main to main crossover at South Kirby Jcn to get on the front to pull it to Leeds

It went via Adwick at first; although the headcode mysteriously disappeared at Carcroft junction and the train started moving an hour and a half later so it must have got to the front somehow.
Hambleton would be more logical; so there must have been some reason it couldn't go that way

 

[D365]

Is that it going ECS as 5c48 currently passing through Welwyn Graden City?

It must have already made it to Kings X when I looked

So what exactly was the purpose of your comments?

 

[SpacePhoenix]

So what exactly was the purpose of your comments?

Try reading through the thread:roll:

 

[Adam0984]

It went via Adwick at first; although the headcode mysteriously disappeared at Carcroft junction and the train started moving an hour and a half later so it must have got to the front somehow.
Hambleton would be more logical; so there must have been some reason it couldn't go that way

Must have gone wrong Road from Adwick to South Kirkby crossover and onto the front then

 

[D365]

Try reading through the thread:roll:

Thankfully I did not have to travel by train yesterday, but in the past when I've been delayed on East Coast services you've often made unhelpful remarks, whilst I was concerned with actually finding out when the situation would be resolved.

 

[jonhewes]

Out of interest, why was it deemed necessary to detrain the passengers and run ECS to Bounds Green? Kings Cross is less than 6 miles away!

 

[GW43125]

Out of interest, why was it deemed necessary to detrain the passengers and run ECS to Bounds Green? Kings Cross is less than 6 miles away!

because if the set is buggered, taking it into KX would require an extra loco, two reversals and potentially a run round move to get it into Bounds Green for repair. Whereas if you detrain at Stevenage/Peterborough, you can run round the Hertford loop and straight into Bounds Green from the north without having to reverse.