Virgin trains super voyagers

[premier01]

It seems that Coach D on the VT Super Voyagers is different to the other standard coaches-the seats look more like 1st class seats and there seem to be more tables-when travelling in standard on these trains I always try to get a seat in Coach D as it seems more comfortable-is there a reason for the differences and do others find it better in Coach D on the Super Voyagers.

 

[junglejames]

Dont they have an extra 1st class coach on certain runs? So in that case, would this be the extra 1st class coach declassified?

Just checked. Yep, coach D is a duel use 1st/ standard coach with shop apparently. On North Wales services it is an extra 1st class coach, whilst on Anglo Scottish runs it is a standard class coach. Having not paid much attention to them, is it 2 by 2 seating, or 2 by 1 that you saw?

 

[premier01]

Dont they have an extra 1st class coach on certain runs? So in that case, would this be the extra 1st class coach declassified?

Just checked. Yep, coach D is a duel use 1st/ standard coach with shop apparently. On North Wales services it is an extra 1st class coach, whilst on Anglo Scottish runs it is a standard class coach. Having not paid much attention to them, is it 2 by 2 seating, or 2 by 1 that you saw?

It's 2 + 2 seating which is the reason that I thought that it wouldn't be declassified 1st-also not sure that the seats are as wide as 1st class seats.

It is much better than the other coaches however-not sure but wasn't there a Club Class when VT first started out-or was this just 1st Class with a different name-if it was an extra class that could be the the Coach D configuration. Also was travelling with 1st ticket on a Super Voyager between Preston and London and was disappointed that my seat reservation was for Coach D so moved to Coach E-think it coupled with another train and had Coach L as 1st Class so was 10 coach train.

Also that day was disappointed as breakfast was just a warmed up bacon sandwich not usual breakfast!

On Tuesday was travelling from Carlisle to Preston on the Scotland to Birmingham service and Coach D was standard so guess it's just on the Preston to London services that there are 2 coaches is 1st but not sure of the times.

 

[Invincibles]

My understanding is that coach D is just standard seats reconfigured to be all tables.

This is used as first on the London trains and standard on the Birmingham ones.

I found the wifi is free in coach D, which can be useful

 

[Going South]

I regularly travel on the 0810 Euston to Bangor. Coach D is first class (and pretty full at least part of the way) on this train. Coming South I usually change at Chester onto the 1935 Euston train. I aim to sit in coach D which is now standard class (though with a few first class table mats kicking around to cause confusion).

 

[rail-britain]

This revised seating was put into effect in order to increase the amount of First Class on specific trains
It really is a con to First Class ticket holders, but a great surprise to those with Standard tickets
Equally, it can be confusing when used as First Class