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WCRC loses judicial review in High Court

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Towers

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On the WCRC Jacobite website they show a TripAdvisor travellers choice award/badge. Only problem is it's from 2020, not sure if they'll get a 2024 version.
Yes, the problem with proudly displaying trinkets such as that from several years ago is that it immediately begs the question “What’s happened since?”, which can end up not being a terribly good look!
 
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Yes, the problem with proudly displaying trinkets such as that from several years ago is that it immediately begs the question “What’s happened since?”, which can end up not being a terribly good look!
There was a restaurant l know of which only recently removed a banner relating to a 2010 award.....

Personally l'm in agreement with you that such things do more harm than good to a business.

Certainly providing safe, sanitary and properly climate-controlled rolling stock should be considered a given on such services.
 

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Do they say anything about the interiors? With that many tables, plenty of places for litter to accumulate.
I am not sure what the staffing arrangements were for the 2024 Jacobite season but I am guessing there was less requirement for stewarding each door since CDL was introduced.
Did the on train stewards do any carriage clean9ng on arrival back at Fort William ?
 

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I am not sure what the staffing arrangements were for the 2024 Jacobite season but I am guessing there was less requirement for stewarding each door since CDL was introduced.
Did the on train stewards do any carriage clean9ng on arrival back at Fort William ?
They never stewarded each door anyway! That was the whole reason why their Mk1 licence got revoked.
 

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No it wasn’t. The reason their Mark 1s were prevented from use was a lack of CDL.
Bit of both; because of the lack of CDL, the ORR insisted on them drawing up a stewarding plan to keep the non-CDL doors safe. WCRC then failed two spot inspections, where their agreed plan was not being adhered to, so the ORR forced them to use CDL-only stock because they could not be trusted to adhere to the mitigations already agreed by the regulator.
 

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Bit of both; because of the lack of CDL, the ORR insisted on them drawing up a stewarding plan to keep the non-CDL doors safe. WCRC then failed two spot inspections, where their agreed plan was not being adhered to, so the ORR forced them to use CDL-only stock because they could not be trusted to adhere to the mitigations already agreed by the regulator.
You are conflating two separate regulatory processes.

The first is the operation of the Jacobite service where spot inspections (presumably after a tip-off) revealed non-compliance with the agreed stewarding plan for non-CDL fitted doors. This was subject to enforcement action, twice, including suspension of service.

The second is WCRC's wider non-CDL fitted door issue, which applies to their whole fleet, not just the Jacobite. The ORR signposted several years ago that there would be no further blanket exemptions from the CDL regulations, and agreed time-bound plans with other operators to fit CDL, but allow them to continue running. WCRC chose a diferent route and challenged it via a Judicial Review. Having had their case thoroughly rejected in the Judicial Review process, ORR have terminated the limited exemption that WCRC had that kept them running through the review. Having failed to engage and provide a CDL fitment plan, ORR will not be issuing any further CDL exemptions for WCRC unless or until WCRC change their approach.
 

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It is strange the door locks are suddenly an issue. Mk1s have been running for decades without them but of a sudden they need stewards or locks.

I can even remember even HSTs had no locks and you could open a door at 125mph. Insisting on these having locks makes a bit more sense but given the lower speed of the Jscobite it would appear that the regulator just wants to destroy someone's business and people's enjoyment over not very much.
 

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It is strange the door locks are suddenly an issue. Mk1s have been running for decades without them but of a sudden they need stewards or locks.

I can even remember even HSTs had no locks and you could open a door at 125mph. Insisting on these having locks makes a bit more sense but given the lower speed of the Jscobite it would appear that the regulator just wants to destroy someone's business and people's enjoyment over not very much.
This discussion was had thirty pages back.


Risk appetites have changed.
 

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We’re clearly starting to go over old ground now. If anyone has anything new to add then feel free to get in touch, but for now we’ll put a pause on proceedings.

Thanks everyone
 
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