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Alex 2901

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Looks like Arriva have some changes planned:

"From 29 June 2019
Service 1 (Arriva Midlands, Cannock - Walsall) - Revised route and timetable. Huntington will now be served by service 2.
Services 2 / 2A (Arriva Midlands, Huntington - Walsall) - Revised route and timetable, extending from Cannock to serve Huntington. 2E evening journeys will be renumbered as 2A.
Services 3 / 3A (Arriva Midlands, Cannock - Walsall) - Revised route and timetable. Service 3 will operate via Chapel Street and Norton Green Lane, new 3A journeys will operate between Norton East and Walsall.
Service 60 (Arriva Midlands, Cannock - Lichfield) - Revised route and timetable, including new 60A journeys operating via Hawks Green.
Service 61/61A/X61 (Arriva Midlands, Cannock - Lichfield) will be cancelled. Service 62 (Arriva Midlands) will no longer serve Lichfield, operating between Cannock and Cannock Wood only. 62S School day only journeys will be cancelled.
Service 63 (Arriva Midlands, Cannock - Rugeley) - Revised timetable.
Service 70 (Arriva Midlands, Cannock - Wolverhampton) - Revised timetable."
 
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Alex 2901 said:
Looks like Arriva have some changes planned:

"From 29 June 2019
Service 1 (Arriva Midlands, Cannock - Walsall) - Revised route and timetable. Huntington will now be served by service 2.
Services 2 / 2A (Arriva Midlands, Huntington - Walsall) - Revised route and timetable, extending from Cannock to serve Huntington. 2E evening journeys will be renumbered as 2A.
Services 3 / 3A (Arriva Midlands, Cannock - Walsall) - Revised route and timetable. Service 3 will operate via Chapel Street and Norton Green Lane, new 3A journeys will operate between Norton East and Walsall.
Service 60 (Arriva Midlands, Cannock - Lichfield) - Revised route and timetable, including new 60A journeys operating via Hawks Green.
Service 61/61A/X61 (Arriva Midlands, Cannock - Lichfield) will be cancelled. Service 62 (Arriva Midlands) will no longer serve Lichfield, operating between Cannock and Cannock Wood only. 62S School day only journeys will be cancelled.
Service 63 (Arriva Midlands, Cannock - Rugeley) - Revised timetable.
Service 70 (Arriva Midlands, Cannock - Wolverhampton) - Revised timetable."
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Changes & new timetables are up on the Arriva site, i suspect the 1 & 2 change are a response to NXWM X51.
 
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I see on a Facebook forum that national express are looking into taking on the ring and ride operation
 
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Anthony ross said:
I see on a Facebook forum that national express are looking into taking on the ring and ride operation
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They're not looking in to it, they're taking over the contracts, staff & approx 400 vehicles from ATG which is currently being kept afloat by the administration. It includes home to school transport + Ring & Ride
 
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Is there any news on what depot these former ATG contract will be based at or if there taking on the former ATG depots as well
 
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Anthony ross said:
Is there any news on what depot these former ATG contract will be based at or if there taking on the former ATG depots as well
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No, NX are still in negotiation to buy some/all of ATG which I assume will include vehicles & depots. Plus negotiating with TfWM to take over Ring & Ring contract.
 
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No, NX are still in negotiation to buy some/all of ATG which I assume will include vehicles & depots. Plus negotiating with TfWM to take over Ring & Ring contract.
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NX take over the Ring & Ride fleet as of 1.8.19. - as NEAT (National Express Accessible Transport)

Opening Fleetlist with new NXWM fleet numbers is a follows:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NEAT/fleetlist.html

NXWM have also taken 8 former Igo buses in withdrawn condition, they have been allocated fleet numbers 323-327, 729/730 & 800 respectively:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/0501-0830.html
 
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I’m still surprised it was national express that decided to take on the ring and ride etc I thought it would have been more ct plus who would have taken it on but good luck to them
 
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WM Bus said:
Up until the other week 729 - 730 and 323 - 325 were still being used on Birmingham City Council contracts in East Birmingham. I saw them on the Washwood Heath Road and at the Fox and Goose, most days at peak times.
765 - 768 and 8354 - 8356, which have joined the NXWM fleet at BC will probably take their place on these contracts.
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They may well have been '2206', but they've been acquired by NXWM as withdrawn.
 
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From 2nd September Johnsons are diverting the 20 Stratford Upon Avon-Shirley to Solihull, & extending it to Coventry replacing the 82, the service will numbered X20, new timetable already up.

https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/New X20 Solihull via Shirley.pdf
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Regarding the Solihull - Coventry section, was that the former 192/193/194 routes that went from Solihull Station via Hampton in Arden, Meriden Green, Balsall Common, and Tile Hill station that it is taking over?
 
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adrock1976 said:
Regarding the Solihull - Coventry section, was that the former 192/193/194 routes that went from Solihull Station via Hampton in Arden, Meriden Green, Balsall Common, and Tile Hill station that it is taking over?
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Prior to 2009 it operated as the 192/194 service running as the routing above. This service was run at various times by Coventry and AG, the latter times having end of day extensions instead of dead runs from Solihull.

It then got replaced by the 19W/19X which were hourly extensions of the Coventry 19 service to Solihull, running a slightly different route in the Tile Hill area run by NX Coventry.

That then got replaced by the 82, which was run by NX Coventry again with another amended route in Tile Hill so it would run in sync with the 81.

Central Connect then took over the 82 as part of the Signature network and re routed it to run direct from Meriden to Coventry (with a re routing to the estate which the 900 also served). The Balsall Common section got replaced with the 83 flexible bus, then the 89 igo (now Diamond following the collapse in April 2019 of the previous operators) service.

The 89 service, along with the 87 service, are the near enough successors between Balsall Common and Coventry of the original 192/194, albeit the 89 only runs 1 trip a day.

Johnson's won the contract off Diamond for the 82/87/88 and it is now the former which is getting the rebrand to X20.
 
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bussnapperwm said:
Prior to 2009 it operated as the 192/194 service running as the routing above. This service was run at various times by Coventry and AG, the latter times having end of day extensions instead of dead runs from Solihull.

It then got replaced by the 19W/19X which were hourly extensions of the Coventry 19 service to Solihull, running a slightly different route in the Tile Hill area run by NX Coventry.

That then got replaced by the 82, which was run by NX Coventry again with another amended route in Tile Hill so it would run in sync with the 81.

Central Connect then took over the 82 as part of the Signature network and re routed it to run direct from Meriden to Coventry (with a re routing to the estate which the 900 also served). The Balsall Common section got replaced with the 83 flexible bus, then the 89 igo (now Diamond following the collapse in April 2019 of the previous operators) service.

The 89 service, along with the 87 service, are the near enough successors between Balsall Common and Coventry of the original 192/194, albeit the 89 only runs 1 trip a day.

Johnson's won the contract off Diamond for the 82/87/88 and it is now the former which is getting the rebrand to X20.
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Funny you mention the 192/194 i remember catching it one day, & there was a debranded National Express plaxton coach allocated on the route, quite bizarre site.
 
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adrock1976 said:
Regarding the Solihull - Coventry section, was that the former 192/193/194 routes that went from Solihull Station via Hampton in Arden, Meriden Green, Balsall Common, and Tile Hill station that it is taking over?
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Johnson's won the 82 from Diamond Bus in Feb earlier this year, they're merging the 82 with the X20.

Current 82 timetable below:
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/82(1).pdf
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Funny you mention the 192/194 i remember catching it one day, & there was a debranded National Express plaxton coach allocated on the route, quite bizarre site.
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That would have been back in Travel Yourbus days that WMT bought out.
 
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Staying on the old 192/194 routes, one of them went via Meriden then down the lanes to Berkswell, i seem to remember they did separate routes in Coventry as well, i don't know when they became the current 82/87
 
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