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West Midlands Class 323 - the final countdown

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thealexweb

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Most platforms on services out of Liverpool are not long enough to take 6 car 323s.

Yep, exactly why they are getting four cars. Manchester-Preston line platform extensions are pretty much complete and ready for six car 323 running

*hint hint* pls send the next ones up. We’ve got two car DMUs covering multiple EMU diagrams every day now.
 

wythallpaul

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Monday 4th March 2024

I arrived at New Street at 09.58 & departed at 10.22 and observed:-

That it was 323201 that was paired with 323213. (10.06 to Lichfield TV)
323217+323221 (10.15 to Redditch)
 

JW4

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Wednesday 6 March
323207+323222
323241
323204+323242
323221+323219
323201+323213
323203

323211 is the sole 323 at Soho this morning.
 
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wythallpaul

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323201+323213
323206 Alone
323215+?
323218+323241
323219+323221

323211 in it's usual place on Soho depot.
 

Liverpool 507

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Liverpool to Blackpool, Liverpool to Manchester Airport, some Wigan to Liverpools, some Crewe to Manchesters.

As more 323s transfer across from WMR, are they all going to be allocated to Blackpool - Manchester Airport services, or will this remain shared with whatever 331/0s remain in the North West?
 

JW4

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Sunday 10 March
323204+323242
323214 alone
323203 alone
323219+323221
323206 alone
 
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TheTallOne

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323221 spotted, I think, going over the bridge near Northfield as I was driving yesterday lunchtime.

Pretty sure it was that one, given the unique branding!
 

dan4291

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Are there likely to be 323s still running in Birmingham in July? I'm staying there for a weekend and wouldn't mind getting a trip on one on the Cross City line before they go.
 

reecestrains

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How many of the West Midlands 323's are needed with Northern before more of the 331/0's can be transferred to Yorkshire to accomodate 6 car trains on the Airedale and Wharfedale Line?
 

childwallblues

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As more 323s transfer across from WMR, are they all going to be allocated to Blackpool - Manchester Airport services, or will this remain shared with whatever 331/0s remain in the North West?
An interesting question. Blackpool North to Manchester Airport should return to six cars when all of the 323s have arrived.
 

JW4

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323218 alone
323204+323242
323241+323202
323210+323222
 
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AJDesiro

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Are there likely to be 323s still running in Birmingham in July? I'm staying there for a weekend and wouldn't mind getting a trip on one on the Cross City line before they go.
There may be one or two, but 730 rollout on the cross city is expected to begin in April, so it’s highly unlikely unfortunately.
 

Liam L

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Are there likely to be 323s still running in Birmingham in July? I'm staying there for a weekend and wouldn't mind getting a trip on one on the Cross City line before they go.
It depends how well the 730 introduction goes. I would imagine there be a few still about. But best to check back in closer to the time.

Will they be going into northern colours after all 17 have been transferred?
I believe it's already been said the repaints will start once the majority of the units have been moved.
 

wythallpaul

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Monday 11th March 2024

Visible on Soho Depot:- 323211 - Awaiting Repair. 323240 & 323243 - Available, stabled on 2 different sidings. Shed doors were closed, could be more inside.

323207 Alone
323210+323222
323216+323217
323219 Alone
 

Halish Railway

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How many of the West Midlands 323's are needed with Northern before more of the 331/0's can be transferred to Yorkshire to accomodate 6 car trains on the Airedale and Wharfedale Line?
I believe 7 - To the best of my knowledge there are already nine 331/0s in Yorkshire and 16 will be required to work six carriage trains on Leeds to Skipton and Ilkley services.
 

childwallblues

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I believe 7 - To the best of my knowledge there are already nine 331/0s in Yorkshire and 16 will be required to work six carriage trains on Leeds to Skipton and Ilkley services.
Allerton lost 24 units 15 x 319 and 9 x 331/0 and gained 12 x 331/1 and 3 x 323. With 14 x 323 still to come that would mean Allerton should only lose another 5 units.
 

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Hello,is there anyone that can help me today please, I'm in Birmingham New st from 1000 till 1240 I'm hoping to knock off my last couple of 323s I need for haulage can you please state if 202,203,217,220 qnd especially 240 are due to pass through in that time frame many thanks
 

jonesy3001

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Hello,is there anyone that can help me today please, I'm in Birmingham New st from 1000 till 1240 I'm hoping to knock off my last couple of 323s I need for haulage can you please state if 202,203,217,220 qnd especially 240 are due to pass through in that time frame many thanks
You won't see 220 as that's in Manchester.
 
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