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West Midlands Class 323 - the final countdown

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RailKnight786

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This Morning Stockport Station. Operated by Northern the EX-WMR Still in Usual Livery, Debranded. Northern Running all 323's Transferred over in WMR Livery Debranded.

At Manchester Piccadilly Currently. Debranded WMR Livery Operated by Northern. In Use. 323220.
I'll try my best to update on other transfered 323's as they arrive. Was informed they will operate in Debranded WMR Livery until all delivered. Where they will go for full Northern Rebrand and Respray, Conductor wasn't sure about interior rebrand however.
 

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JW4

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323243 alone
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3232??+323222
 
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Russel

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The WMR transitional livery on these looks terrible, it's looked tatty from the day it was applied, leaving them in unbranded London Midland livery would have looked much better, same for the 350/2's.
 

JW4

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The WMR transitional livery on these looks terrible, it's looked tatty from the day it was applied, leaving them in unbranded London Midland livery would have looked much better, same for the 350/2's.
So like on the unit here?
 

Russel

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So like on the unit here?

Yeah, like that.

I can't agree, i prefer the WMR and LNWR liveries to the LM one. But its all personal taste after all.

The WMR livery is very nice as is the LNWR, though the LNWR took a while to warm to, it looks much nicer on the
730's than on the 350s, it's the hybrid liveries on the 323s, 350s and 170s that look tatty, the orange WRM diamonds vinyl over the semi removed LM livery that has looked awful from day one.

The above video shows what they should have done, WMR logos over the full LM livery looked a lot smarter.
 

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Quick trust based update for 16.04.24

201 + 206 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield
202 - Wolverton
203 + 222 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield
204 - Four Oaks - Redditch
205 + 240 - Four Oaks - Redditch
207 + 217 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield
208 - Hadfield/Glossop
209 + 219 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield
210 + 215 - Four Oaks - Redditch
211 - Soho
212 - Preston
213 + 241 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield
214 - Wolverton
216 - Soho
218 + 221 - Four Oaks - Redditch
220 - Crewe / Stoke on Trent
242 - Soho
243 - Four Oaks - Redditch

Just for the hell of it, here's how the Northern side looks

223 - Allerton
224 - Picc - Stoke
225 - Picc - Hadfield/Glossop
226 - Longsight
227 - Picc - Hadfield/Glossop
228 - Allerton
229 - Picc - Crewe
230 - Allerton
231 - Siemens Ardwick (spare)
232 - Picc - Alderley Edge
233 - Picc - Crewe
234 - Picc - Stoke
235 - Allerton
236 - Wigan NW - Liverpool LS
237 - Picc - Crewe
238 - Picc Macc/Hazel Grove/Crewe/Stoke
239 - Preston
 
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RailKnight786

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Quick trust based update for 16.04.24

201 + 206 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield
202 - Wolverton
203 + 222 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield
204 - Four Oaks - Redditch
205 + 240 - Four Oaks - Redditch
207 + 217 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield
208 - Hadfield/Glossop
209 + 219 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield
210 + 215 - Four Oaks - Redditch
211 - Soho
212 - Preston
213 + 241 - Bromsgrove - Litchfield
214 - Wolverton
216 - Soho
218 + 221 - Four Oaks - Redditch
220 - Crewe / Stoke on Trent
242 - Soho
243 - Four Oaks - Redditch

Just for the hell of it, here's how the Northern side looks

223 - Allerton
224 - Picc - Stoke
225 - Picc - Hadfield/Glossop
226 - Longsight
227 - Picc - Hadfield/Glossop
228 - Allerton
229 - Picc - Crewe
230 - Allerton
231 - Siemens Ardwick (spare)
232 - Picc - Alderley Edge
233 - Picc - Crewe
234 - Picc - Stoke
235 - Allerton
236 - Wigan NW - Liverpool LS
237 - Picc - Crewe
238 - Picc Macc/Hazel Grove/Crewe/Stoke
239 - Preston
Thanks for this!
Much Appreciated
 

JW4

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Quick trust based update for 16.04.24
216 - Soho
Interesting that 216 was in service on Monday and is again today but was in Soho on Tuesday
 
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Geeves

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Interesting that 216 was in service on Monday and is again today but was in Soho on Tuesday

I might be remembering wrong but I think on Gemini it had some a bit of work Monday morning but went back to the Depot so I can only guess it had a fault fixed at the depot.
 

wythallpaul

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Wednesday 17th April 2024
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323218+323221

211 was in it's usual position at Soho. 2 others looked paired and available one of which was 219.

While I was at New Street at 17.00 they were announcing that the 17.16 to Four Oaks (16.31 Ex Redditch) was being cancelled due to a train fault. RTT says Traction Equipment.
 

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Redditch Branch 323’s 20/04/24:
243 11.01 Redditch - Four Oaks
219 11.31 Redditch - Four Oaks
210+215 12.01 Redditch - Four Oaks
216+242 12.31 Redditch - Four Oaks
203+209 13.01 Redditch - Four Oaks
 
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Russel

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Does the Centro unit have any regular diagrams or does it just turn up where ever?

Wouldn't mind getting a photo of it on Monday if it's around.
 

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