West Midlands Railway Class 172/0 distribution after December Timetable change

[Stephen Lee]

If i am right the WMR Class 172/0 arrangements during May-December are
1x for Birmingham-Hereford, 2x for Nuneaton-Coventry-Leamington spa and 4x for Snow hill line(Work in Multiple as 2x 4 car)
But until someone told me that since the December timetable change, Birmingham-Hereford route are no longer running Class 172s, leaving the class 170 and 153s to run the line.
Therefore, does anyone have the new arrangements of Class 172/0 after December Timetable change? Many thanks.

 

[Techniquest]

Only thing I can tell you for sure is there was a 1400 from Great Malvern to Dorridge last week which had 172006 on the back.

Never seen a 172/0 on Hereford services, would have made a nice change but if it also meant less 153s then yeah, I'd rather a 153 while they still roam the Midlands!

 

[Stephen Lee]

Only thing I can tell you for sure is there was a 1400 from Great Malvern to Dorridge last week which had 172006 on the back.

Never seen a 172/0 on Hereford services, would have made a nice change but if it also meant less 153s then yeah, I'd rather a 153 while they still roam the Midlands!

This means the WMR Class 172/0 arrangements after December are
2x for Nuneaton-Coventry-Leamington spa and 5x for Snow hill line(4x Work in Multiple as 2x 4 car)

 

[DMUfan]

Are the ex East Midlands Railway 153s still will West Midlands Railway?

 

[Stephen Lee]

They were in Transport for Wales now

Are the ex East Midlands Railway 153s still will West Midlands Railway?

 

[Stephen Lee]

Also I was wondering if Class 170/5 x2 no longer runs in snow hill line coz there used to be this combo in SHL until December timetable change, it was replaced by Class 170/5+class 153 x2

This means the WMR Class 172/0 arrangements after December are
2x for Nuneaton-Coventry-Leamington spa and 5x for Snow hill line(4x Work in Multiple as 2x 4 car)

 

[Stephen Lee]

Do you have any ideas about the rolling stock of 1109 Dorridge-Kidderminister?does it still have class 170s?

 

[D.K.TAYLOR]

Do you have any ideas about the rolling stock of 1109 Dorridge-Kidderminister?does it still have class 170s?

Usually a 4 or 5 car 172/2 or 172/3

 

[Stephen Lee]

Usually a 4 or 5 car 172/2 or 172/3

Does SHL still have Class 170s?

 

[Sprinter107]

Does SHL still have Class 170s?

I take it you mean Snow Hill bud, (SHL is the code for Shawlands), then yes, it does.

 

[Stephen Lee]

I take it you mean Snow Hill bud, (SHL is the code for Shawlands), then yes, it does.

Oic but can I have the diagrams please?

 

[Sprinter107]

Oic but can I have the diagrams please?

170 + 153 x 2
06.30 Worcester Shrub Hill to Dorridge
08.11 Dorridge to Worcester Shrub Hill
09.52 Worcester Shrub Hill to Whitlocks End
11.19 Whitlocks End to Worcester Shrub Hill
13.17 Worcester Shrub Hill to Dorridge
14.46 Dorridge to Worcester Foregate Street
16.34 Worcester Foregate Street to Dorridge
18.24 Dorridge to Stourbridge Junction
ECS Stourbridge Junction to Tyseley

170 + 153
ECS Tyseley to Stourbridge Junction
07.10 Stourbridge Junction to Whitlocks End
08.23 Whitlocks End to Stourbridge Junction
09.15 Stourbridge Junction to Birmingham Snow Hill
ECS Birmingham Snow Hill to Tyseley
ECS Tyseley to Birmingham Snow Hill
16.32 Birmingham Snow Hill to Whitlocks End
17.06 Whitlocks End to Stourbridge Junction
18.07 Stourbridge Junction to Whitlocks End
ECS Whitlocks End to Tyseley
Hope this helps.

 

[Sprinter107]

Oic but can I have the diagrams please?

Not sure if you want weekends, but here goes.
Saturday
170
17.15 Worcester Shrub Hill to Dorridge
19.00 Dorridge to Worcester Shrub Hill

170 + 153 ×2
ECS Worcester Shrub Hill to Kidderminster
21.05 Kidderminster to Dorridge
22.37 Dorridge to Worcester Shrub Hill

Sundays
170
21.18 Worcester Foregate Street to Birmingham Moor Street
22.51 Birmingham Moor Street to Worcester Shrub Hill

 

[Sprinter107]

Remember that in times of disruption, or unit shortage, these diagrams can be substituted with other units.

 

[Stephen Lee]

Cheers

 

[Stephen Lee]

170 + 153 x 2
06.30 Worcester Shrub Hill to Dorridge
08.11 Dorridge to Worcester Shrub Hill
09.52 Worcester Shrub Hill to Whitlocks End
11.19 Whitlocks End to Worcester Shrub Hill
13.17 Worcester Shrub Hill to Dorridge
14.46 Dorridge to Worcester Foregate Street
16.34 Worcester Foregate Street to Dorridge
18.24 Dorridge to Stourbridge Junction
ECS Stourbridge Junction to Tyseley

170 + 153
ECS Tyseley to Stourbridge Junction
07.10 Stourbridge Junction to Whitlocks End
08.23 Whitlocks End to Stourbridge Junction
09.15 Stourbridge Junction to Birmingham Snow Hill
ECS Birmingham Snow Hill to Tyseley
ECS Tyseley to Birmingham Snow Hill
16.32 Birmingham Snow Hill to Whitlocks End
17.06 Whitlocks End to Stourbridge Junction
18.07 Stourbridge Junction to Whitlocks End
ECS Whitlocks End to Tyseley
Hope this helps.

How about class 172/0?

 

[Stephen Lee]

Guys sorry I forget to ask if anyone has the Class 172/0 diagrams after December timetable change please？thanks

 

[Stephen Lee]

Guys sorry I forget to ask if anyone has the Class 172/0 diagrams after December timetable change please？thanks

It can be either Class 172/0 working in Multiple or Class 172/0 paired up with a Class 172/2 or /3

 

[TH172341]

Don't work for WMT but use Snow Hill lines fairly often and noted two of the Class 172/0 diagrams based on a couple of weekday observations and worked the likely workings out. Cannot guarantee 100% it is accurate yet. Apart from these two 2+2 formation diagrams, there may be a 172/3 + 172/0 diagram as had such a formation on the 1400 from Great Malvern recently. However, not sure if that is a regular working and when I next end up on that service can give an indication.

1. x2 Class 172/0s

0624 Stourbridge Junction to Leamington Spa
0747 Leamington Spa to Birmingham Snow Hill

Shunts into Snow Hill sidings and runs empty stock move to Worcester Shrub Hill.

1052 Worcester Shrub Hill to Whitlocks End
1219 Whitlocks End to Worcester Foregate Street
1351 Worcester Foregate Street to Whitlocks End
1519 Whitlocks End to Worcester Foregate Street
1647 Worcester Foregate Street to Stratford-upon-Avon
1851 Stratford-upon-Avon to Kidderminster
2105 Kidderminster to Dorridge
2225 Dorridge to Birmingham Snow Hill
2253 Birmingham Snow Hill to Dorridge

Runs out of service to Tyseley Depot

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2. x2 Class 172/0s

0720 Stratford-upon-Avon to Stourbridge Junction
0844 Stourbridge Junction to Dorridge
0946 Dorridge to Worcester Foregate Street
1116 Worcester Foregate Street to Dorridge
1246 Dorridge to Worcester Shrub Hill
1452 Worcester Shrub Hill to Whitlocks End
1619 Whitlocks End to Worcester Shrub Hill
1755 Worcester Shrub Hill to Whitlocks End
1945 Whitlocks End to Birmingham Snow Hill
2019 Birmingham Snow Hill to Dorridge
2052 Dorridge to Birmingham Snow Hill
2121 Birmingham Snow Hill to Dorridge
2201 Dorridge to Kidderminster

Runs out of service to Tyseley Depot

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[Stephen Lee]

Thank you.

By the way, do you have the timings of Class 170/5+153 x2 on the Birmingham— Hereford route？

Thanks.