dangie
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I just wish my town could be in any current time zone instead of being 20 years behind…….
Easy to fix, just start and finish the working hours an hour later when required.Leave things as they are. It's not perfect, but it's a sensible compromise. Moving to permanent GMT+1 means that it isn't getting light here until nearly 10am in the winter months. It's getting dark after 3pm as it is, so having the extra hour of daylight later in the day makes no difference to anyone finishing work at 5pm. I'd rather have that little bit of daylight on the way into work.
Leave things as they are. It's not perfect, but it's a sensible compromise. Moving to permanent GMT+1 means that it isn't getting light here until nearly 10am in the winter months. It's getting dark after 3pm as it is, so having the extra hour of daylight later in the day makes no difference to anyone finishing work at 5pm. I'd rather have that little bit of daylight on the way into work.
I shall resist the temptation to comment on the prospect of England and Scotland being in different time zones, and needing to adjust our timepieces at Berwick on Tweed.There is I suppose a not unreasonable argument for Scotland being on a different timezone to England, and perhaps on independence it might choose this? It's a long way north and west.
Leave things as they are. It's not perfect, but it's a sensible compromise. Moving to permanent GMT+1 means that it isn't getting light here until nearly 10am in the winter months. It's getting dark after 3pm as it is, so having the extra hour of daylight later in the day makes no difference to anyone finishing work at 5pm. I'd rather have that little bit of daylight on the way into work.
Easy to fix, just start and finish the working hours an hour later when required.
Maybe something to adapt to for the few who do need to work across a 1 hour time difference but for the great majority of the population either side of the border, virtually no difference at all.I agree.
Having Scotland and England on different time zones, as some people have suggested, would create a whole load of problems for those who travel across the border, and is a complete non starter as far as I can see.
Yes, the impact even in the most north-westerly corner of the UK is not as severe as some make out. But even then, there's no reason why schools, shops, local companies and other daily activities can't be adjusted to,what works best locally. That has become much more relevant with the rise in homeworking and flexible hours.You could say a similar thing to those who are not happy with the current arrangements.
Reopened at the request of @nw1
I’d ideally like BST all year round, but I’d compromise on BST to GMT last weekend in October as at present, then GMT to BST last weekend in February. That would give eight months of BST and four months of GMT.So while GMT is a reasonable fit for now, it's a poor fit for early Nov. So I'd strongly support delaying the onset of GMT to the third Sunday in November, and ending it on the last Sunday in February or first in March.
Yep, sounds a good compromise.I’d ideally like BST all year round, but I’d compromise on BST to GMT last weekend in October as at present, then GMT to BST last weekend in February. That would give eight months of BST and four months of GMT.
This pub is named in honour of William Willett, a local MP, who campaigned for daylight saving in the 1900’s.
This imposing mock Tudor building, built in 1935, stands in the heart of Petts Wood Station Square. Built originally as a pub and hotel with a ball room attached, it has been updated several times over the years. It has managed to retain wood panelling, fire places, brickwork and original features. The ballroom is used for community events and is available for hire. Two large screens are in the main area of the pub. An outside seating area round the pub overlooks the square.
The pub is included on CAMRA's "real heritage" list, and is grade II listed nationally...
In permanent GMT most people would experience an hour less of daylight time, in the hours they are actually awake and/or out and about for.Those of you who have done section 2 of the London Loop will have seen the memorial to William Willett and his sundial set to permanent summer time in Petts Wood.
Personally as one who is early to bed and early to rise I get annoyed about all these people who want to go to permanent summer time. Mornings are for getting up early and getting things done, not waiting until mid morning until the early morning frost has gone. Permanent GMT I could live with.
Whatever your decision might be, please ditch Daylight Savings Time. Thank you.
It has to be a compromise. Go for permanent GMT or BST and people at opposite ends of the UK are going to be disadvantaged in some way.At the moment, the current set up is a compromise
Me and my colleagues have our sleep schedules messed up after an hour change.Why?
Me and my colleagues have our sleep schedules messed up after an hour change.
We go from pretty much waking up naturally to waking up too early, having trouble falling asleep, and then struggling to get up from bed.
In some, but not all cases, there are also reports of headaches, muscle pain and, or mood changes in the weeks after the hour change.
I didn't know it had been tried before, I wonder why they decided to experiment with it and why they stopped itThis has been tried before, in 1968-71. It was called British Standard Time, still abbreviated as BST.
It was very unpopular, especially in the north and west of the UK.
Here in the Fens dawn was after 0900 in the middle of winter, there were places in the north and west where dawn was not until about 1000. In particular there was a lot of concern about children going to school in the dark.
I don't think we will be going there again.
My preferance would be to keep having the clocks forward for an hour outside of winter, but yes to put them forward at the end of February like you suggest. It would be nice being light a bit later in March. Furthermore, I often wake up early in March for being both light and cold in the mornings. I can often sleep through either but not both at the same time.If would like BST all year round, but if we were to keep the clock change I’d go for changing from GMT to BST on the last weekend of February not the last weekend of March.
Yes, this is the other reason why I'd favour the clocks going forward at the end of February rather than the end of March.Interesting point.
Is there a reason why the clocks don't move forward until the end of March?
The point being, the clocks go back just under 2 months before the shortest day (December 21), but they don't go forward until over 3 months after the shortest day.
I remember vividly the 1968-1971 experiment, for me alternating between North Lincolnshire and Southampton, and especially the very dark winter mornings which is why it was later dropped by majority request. We don't want to revisit that.
I really don’t understand people who moan about the twice yearly one hour +/- clock change affecting their sleep/biorhythm’s etc, when they happily go on foreign holidays resulting is clock changes from anything between 1 to 6/7/8+ hours. Two weeks later they return only to go through it again.
The answer to why BST was stopped is in the message that you quoted.I didn't know it had been tried before, I wonder why they decided to experiment with it and why they stopped it
That may be the case for you, but it is not a view shared by everyone. Another thing, where science knows a lot more now compared to the 1970s, is Seasonal Affective Disorder, and the impact of lack of daylight on mental health.the October clock change in particular has very little going for it at all.
I'd go with CET. I'm just back from France, and sunset at 6pm at the end of January was rather welcome.
That may be the case for you, but it is not a view shared by everyone. Another thing, where science knows a lot more now compared to the 1970s, is Seasonal Affective Disorder, and the impact of lack of daylight on mental health.
A line has to be drawn somewhere. Recent evidence suggests that lots of people in the UK like it to be in the English Channel.Indeed, if Calais can cope with CET why can't Dover, 20 miles away?