Which type of train still in service today will you miss most when they've all been withdrawn from use on the national network?

[GoneSouth]

That’s a good point. Fair to say they’re somewhat under appreciated compared to the HST.

225.

Good, comfortable trains on the London-Leeds route.

Not under appreciated here, far more enjoyable to ride on than what has replaced them. I see some people are dismissing all this talk as being rose tinted nostalgia, well people’s opinions do matter, and there’s nothing rose tinted about someone saying they get back ache from sitting in modern trains for hours but didn’t on a class xxx 20 years ago. It’s just fact. Anyway, I’ll miss the comfortable seats of the 125s and the 225s, and the smooth ride of a Voyager.

I expect that last comment will get me some stick

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+1 for the Class 91/MK4s. They're the train that more than any other started my love for trains. They're also something that is fairly unique to where I live, plying their trade on the East Coast Mainline and now only as far away from London as Skipton and York.

And don’t they look beautiful in their new (close to original) liveries?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Fair to say they’re somewhat under appreciated compared to the HST.

100%

 

[GoneSouth]

Look to the Javelin sets for any early warnings I guess.

The only things I would criticise the IET sets for is having the doors at the ends, and cramped entrance vestibules. A bit of a liability when the things fill up, which they do on FGW.

Oooh they won’t like you calling them FGW! They tried to distance themselves from the F word when they painted everything green

I don’t generally have a problem with the doors at the end, however I have been jammed in and barely able to get off at my stop because of the lack of room.

 

[Halish Railway]

And don’t they look beautiful in their new (close to original) liveries?

My personal favourite livery is the GNER livery. I don't think there have been many better-looking trains than the Class 91 in GNER livery, although my opinion might be influenced by my memories of GNER and the fact that it was the livery they wore when I was young and developing an interest in trains.

 

[43096]

My personal favourite livery is the GNER livery. I don't think there have been many better-looking trains than the Class 91 in GNER livery, although my opinion might be influenced by my memories of GNER and the fact that it was the livery they wore when I was young and developing an interest in trains.

Class 91 has looked very dated in every livery except IC Swallow and the current LNER scheme. Those two liveries do an excellent job if masking the bang average design.

 

[Rikki Lamb]

37s, 150/5/6 DMUs

 

[YourMum666]

Class 91 has looked very dated in every livery except IC Swallow and the current LNER scheme. Those two liveries do an excellent job if masking the bang average design.

the IC Swallow livery is the best livery applied on any British train of all time

 

[Western 52]

the IC Swallow livery is the best livery applied on any British train of all time

I agree - it was stylish, eye-catching and classy. Looked great!

 

[Techniquest]

the IC Swallow livery is the best livery applied on any British train of all time

There have been some good ones since then, but in general I'm inclined to agree. It looks amazing 91s look beast in the livery!

I must add that I do like the Azuma livery, and ScotRail's current livery looks great too. IC Swallow has always been a big favourite though, and generates a nice big bit of nostalgia. Mind you, so does the Centro livery

 

[greyman42]

I didn’t like the tiny seats or fixed armrests, the pneumatic automatic doors slamming, the creakiness of the carriages, etc. I’m just saying the reason I like Pendolinos is not because I’m too young to know what was there before, as I do know what was there before thanks to Greater Anglia, and I wasn’t too fussed. That’s not to say I don’t like them but I certainly prefer the 390s.

The seats on the Mk3 were comfortable as was the fixed armrest to rest your arm on, unlike modern stock which just have hard plastic armrests.
Another advantage of the fixed armrest is that it stopped fat people from encroaching into your seat/space.

 

[12LDA28C]

the IC Swallow livery is the best livery applied on any British train of all time

In your opinion. I preferred the original late-1980s version of IC livery, now that was smart.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

The seats on the Mk3 were comfortable as was the fixed armrest to rest your arm on, unlike modern stock which just have hard plastic armrests.

I love the chunky leather armrests in 222 First

Another advantage of the fixed armrest is that it stopped fat people from encroaching into your seat/space.

Hahahahahahaha

 

[YourMum666]

In your opinion. I preferred the original late-1980s version of IC livery, now that was smart.

IC executive is quite close as well, wonder why the 225 never got that livery

 

[laseandre]

Being from the Glasgow area, 318s and 320s. They'll both be the last of their families in use (they both basically are, unless you count the 321 parcels conversions) (and yes I'm counting the 317/318/455 series separately from the 320/321/322/456) and they're very unlikely to see any serious preservation attempts, knowing the economics of even storing electric multiple units on non-electrified preserved lines.

 

[Obispike01]

I already miss the 483s on the island line hugely. However, the 158/158s that run the West of England line, specifically are iconic for me.

 

[D6130]

I already miss the 483s on the island line hugely.

I already miss the 485s and 486s on the Island Line hugely....even though they knackered my back when I worked 0n them in the late 1980s.

 

[Seagull2006]

Probably due to how sentimental they are to me, as they both got me into the railways, i will miss the Class 170 and 375 when they go.

 

[Arch9enius]

Oooh they won’t like you calling them FGW! They tried to distance themselves from the F word when they painted everything green

I don’t generally have a problem with the doors at the end, however I have been jammed in and barely able to get off at my stop because of the lack of room.

I liked the original livery. I never had to travel on them back then though. The current shade of green is a little too dark in my opinion.

 

[Ozarktheplush]

Let's see... pretty much anything left that's BR-built. There's a certain something about BR era stock, whether it's the engine note of a 158/159, the solidity of an HST, the whine of a 313's motors...

Of stock built post-BR, I have a soft spot for Voyagers. I know they're awful in standard class, I know some people hate the sound of the engines coming through the floor, and some think the toilets smell, but when I get the chance to travel for any distance in first class, I generally enjoy the experience!

I will not miss the IETs, or anything recently built with a 7xx number!

I'm gonna miss the 158's and 159's when they end up life expired I planned on driving for EMR if no other career works out for me but I'll probably miss the Turbostars and I'll probably be stuck driving the pile of rubbish that is called the aventra

 

[Jamesrob637]

IC executive is quite close as well, wonder why the 225 never got that livery

InterCity proper had been introduced by the time the 225s were new

 

[Wivenswold]

Maybe it's my age and that I've witnessed 40 years of class extinctions and 3 rolling stock replacement programmes just on my local line but I don't feel as though I'd miss or mourn any of the modern classes. Maybe when the last 37, 47 or even TS73s on the Piccadilly go into retirement but I don't see them enough to think I'll miss them as such.
Edit: However, if some bright spark replaces our Stadler Flirts with IETs I may be back on board with the notion.

 

[Busman]

Not sure if there's a previous thread on this, but from all current traction and rolling stock on the national network, which type will you miss the most when they've gone, and why?

I had to think for a while, but eventually decided on class 60. I've rated these since they were new, and find them impressive on heavy trains. They sound powerful with 29 102 tonne oil tanks in tow. I remember them too on the Port Talbot to Llanwern iron ore trains ascending Stormy Bank.

Over to you....

Easy. 375/377.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

With recent announcements, we have a new entry for this thread: the 68s and mk5a stock.

 

[lumitumey12345]

The withdrawal of the SWR 455's for me! One of the most iconic trains on the UK rail network, will be such a shame when they go.

 

[12LDA28C]

The withdrawal of the SWR 455's for me! One of the most iconic trains on the UK rail network, will be such a shame when they go.

455s? Iconic?

 

[dereksingh291]

How long have the 390s got left as I’d love to drive one?

 

[lumitumey12345]

How long have the 390s got left as I’d love to drive one?

I'd say 10 - 15 years?

 

[AJDesiro]

I'd say 10 - 15 years?

Probably, maybe 20. Under the current plans AFAIK the West Coast Partnership franchise will still operate on the WCML, alongside HS2, so they may even be around after HS2 opens, albeit perhaps with the worst examples of the fleet scrapped by then.

 

[E27007]

The class 67 and the class 68, the 68 being a Deltic with an extra 500 hp and an impressive engine sound (not claiming it can better twin Napiers), the 67 for their unique appearance

 

[Trainguy34]

Easy. 375/377.

Glad it's not just me there, though I am biased.