Who's got Regional Railways Pacers? (NUFC advert)

[jh64]

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This teaser trailer for Newcastle United's new away kit stars a number of Regional Railways-liveried Pacers rolling through the countryside. Where'd they find these, do they belong to a heritage site?

 

[DarloRich]

Wensleydale Railway?
Aln Valley ?

 

[berwicksfinest]

I would hazard a guess Aln valley Railway ??

 

[fgwrich]

It’s the Aln Valley Railways 144004 - the slightly too thin blue stripe and location are the give aways.

 

[Bletchleyite]

It’s the Aln Valley Railways 144004 - the slightly too thin blue stripe and location are the give aways.

It's interesting that both of the ones I know of have errors in the livery - the Wensleydale's one has the "device" at the end with the wrong line thickness, they are supposed to be equally thick white and black lines but the black is thinner - and I think the font isn't quite right too.

 

[43096]

It's interesting that both of the ones I know of have errors in the livery - the Wensleydale's one has the "device" at the end with the wrong line thickness, they are supposed to be equally thick white and black lines but the black is thinner - and I think the font isn't quite right too.

The “fleximark”/“linking device” should be dark blue on rolling stock.The corporate identity guide reproduced on doublearrow.co.uk makes this clear: http://www.doublearrow.co.uk/sheets/RR_2005.gif

 

[DarloRich]

So is the new away strip for the SMB's blue and white stripes?

 

[Bletchleyite]

The “fleximark”/“linking device” should be dark blue on rolling stock.The corporate identity guide reproduced on doublearrow.co.uk makes this clear: http://www.doublearrow.co.uk/sheets/RR_2005.gif

Sorry, dark blue, I just remembered wrong. But the link you provide shows that the blue and white lines should be the same width, and on the Wensleydale's unit they aren't, the blue is thinner.

Just surprised preservationists would make an error like that.

 

[43096]

Sorry, dark blue, I just remembered wrong. But the link you provide shows that the blue and white lines should be the same width, and on the Wensleydale's unit they aren't, the blue is thinner.

Just surprised preservationists would make an error like that.

It’s even more surprising when the detail is there, freely available. More excusable where the livery drawings aren’t available.

 

[IanW4]

The full video released this morning. Presumably employing one of the Aln Valley's heritage carriages for the 'first class' section:

A large number of nostalgic nods for fans of the club and several familiar faces. Plus 'Broondale' station.

 

[Bletchleyite]

That kind of has the feel of being inspired by Trenuleţul, the Moldovan Eurovision entry from a few years back. Wonder if it was?

This is it if anyone hasn't seen it:

Amused by the toilet being the cab! . And also a train to Newcastle starting at, er, Newcastle!

It’s the Aln Valley Railways 144004 - the slightly too thin blue stripe and location are the give aways.

Presumably it being a 6-car set is editing?

 

[pokemonsuper9]

For Comparison, here's a couple pictures of Wensleydale's 143623 (the interior is ex-Arriva Wales)

 

[IanW4]

Amused by the toilet being the cab! . And also a train to Newcastle starting at, er, Newcastle!



Presumably it being a 6-car set is editing?

It's advertising the new away strip so it leaves 'Newcastle Central' for an unspecified away destination - not Newcastle.

As the station announcement says just before the train arrives on screen: "Platform 9 for the 6:45 from Newcastle Central Station."

IE They are all on a journey from Newcastle to an away match.

 

[AlterEgo]

Presumably it being a 6-car set is editing?

Correct.

It’s the Aln Valley Railways 144004 - the slightly too thin blue stripe and location are the give aways.

It was also filmed there too, as Greenrigg Halt is very recognisable.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Correct.

Quite a good job given that they've managed to turn it into a 6 car set at the station with the bloke stood there! (I get that the one where it's just going straight across the screen would be quite easy to do even with a rudimentary editing package). Perhaps modern AI based video editing is better than I thought!

As the station announcement says just before the train arrives on screen: "Platform 9 for the 6:45 from Newcastle Central Station."

Ah, the "from" is barely audible so my brain just put "to" in

 

[AlterEgo]

Quite a good job given that they've managed to turn it into a 6 car set at the station with the bloke stood there! (I get that the one where it's just going straight across the screen would be quite easy to do even with a rudimentary editing package). Perhaps modern AI based video editing is better than I thought!

Yes that is quite a good edit, just a second or two and it probably is AI, but a good use of it for a quick job where nobody is looking for the uncanny valley "tells".

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Sorry, dark blue, I just remembered wrong. But the link you provide shows that the blue and white lines should be the same width, and on the Wensleydale's unit they aren't, the blue is thinner.

Just surprised preservationists would make an error like that.

If we're on the subject of nitpicking inaccuracies, 144004 never wore Regional Railways livery under BR, only 011 and 012 did. They also didn't get as far north as Newcastle very often, if ever.

 

[sprinterguy]

Sorry, dark blue, I just remembered wrong. But the link you provide shows that the blue and white lines should be the same width, and on the Wensleydale's unit they aren't, the blue is thinner.

Just surprised preservationists would make an error like that.

It’s even more surprising when the detail is there, freely available. More excusable where the livery drawings aren’t available.

The dark blue 'fleximark' stripes always did look thinner than the white, though, on the class 143s, right from the first set being outshopped from Doncaster in the livery in 1991. This side on view at Bristol Temple Meads illustrates it best (yes, the link is correct):

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[py_megapixel]

As well as the already mentioned toilet in the driving cab, the idea of a Pacer with a quiet coach is interesting. Did that ever happen? Can't imagine it was particularly quiet.

Also I think the LED matrix display must be CGIed in.

 

[Bletchleyite]

The dark blue 'fleximark' stripes always did look thinner than the white, though, on the class 143s, right from the first set being outshopped from Doncaster in the livery in 1991. This side on view at Bristol Temple Meads illustrates it best (yes, the link is correct):

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They look the same thickness to me, whereas the Wensleydale's is obviously wrong.

 

[sprinterguy]

They look the same thickness to me, whereas the Wensleydale's is obviously wrong.

I've now taken a ruler to the fleximarks in close up on a few images of RR 143s back in the day and, allowing for the limitations of image quality, the white stripes uniformly seem to be around 1.4 times the thickness of the dark blue. Admittedly, by the same method on suitable photos, the variation between the two on 143623 as running today is rather greater than that.

If we're on the subject of nitpicking inaccuracies, 144004 never wore Regional Railways livery under BR, only 011 and 012 did.

And 013, purely for completeness and not detracting from your original point.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

And 013, purely for completeness and not detracting from your original point.

Thanks... could try and claim that was a typo, but it was a genuine error!

 

[sprinterguy]

Thanks... could try and claim that was a typo, but it was a genuine error!

Easily overlooked, as you say there weren't many of them in RR livery.

 

[InkyScrolls]

That kind of has the feel of being inspired by Trenuleţul, the Moldovan Eurovision entry from a few years back. Wonder if it was?

Warning: Pedantic linguist inbound
That's technically the wrong diacritic on the second T; it should be an diacritical comma, not a cedilla, thus: Trenulețul
End of Pedantic Linguist alert

 

[Russel]

It’s the Aln Valley Railways 144004 - the slightly too thin blue stripe and location are the give aways.

I'm glad you've pointed that out, it really does stand out as not being quite right, every time I see photos of it...

Obviously to the majority of visitors it's not something they will notice or care about, Regional Railways livery hasn't been seen for around 20 years on the national network.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Warning: Pedantic linguist inbound
That's technically the wrong diacritic on the second T; it should be an diacritical comma, not a cedilla, thus: Trenulețul
End of Pedantic Linguist alert

I just copy-pasted it from their YouTube video, so the artists themselves have made that mistake, not me!

 

[InkyScrolls]

I just copy-pasted it from their YouTube video, so the artists themselves have made that mistake, not me!

Dearie me, an unforgivable error on their part! Though that is likely due to YouTube not supporting all Unicode glyphs.

 

[Old Yard Dog]

144006 & 144007 are with Cambrian Heritage Railways at Oswestry, but in different liveries

 

[RyanOPlasty]

For anyone interested here is a behind-the-scenes video : Link