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Why don't you cycle?

Why don't you cycle?


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Ghostbus

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I hadn't been on a bike since I was a kid. But approaching fifty, I was getting noticeably fatter despite having changed nothing about my lifestyle. I wasn't overweight, but I knew I was unfit. I quickly rejected all other forms of exercise, in favour of cycling. What did I have to lose, I thought?

I had plenty of reservations, and some new ones as I cycled. I also found many unexpected benefits. I've tried to encapsulate them above.

Around the same time I also decided to finally get rid of my car. I was sick of being stuck in a doom loop of needing to drive to work, and needing to work to drive. And while not related as far as I knew, I was kind of aware that driving everywhere wasn't good for my health. That led to even bigger revelations.

So here's what I learned. Hopefully it persuades one of you to get on a bike. And if not, it informs others here what the real barriers to cycling are.

For a start, you don't need to be fit. As long as you can fit on a bike and peddle, you soon start to see the benefit. Within weeks, you'll be amazed you were ever even puffing/burning on short rides and little hills that at first seemed like they might kill you. However, I have found that bike fitness doesn't last. You need to ride at least a couple of times a week. Not a lot, but just to keep the wheels turning, so to speak. Oh, and that bruising on your posterior? That goes after a week or two. Fight through it.

I abhor the lycra clad cycling set. I ride alone or with family, if they are willing. There was not one single fibre of my being that wanted to be identified as a cyclist. But there is salvation. Stretch jeans. With these wonder garments, I can ride somewhere, enter a pub, and everyone thinks I'm normal.

I never wanted to ride on roads, and was glad to realise you don't really need to. Hence I made the decision to not wear a helmet, or anything bright or lycra, and indeed any item of clothing or baggage that screams cyclist. You don't need wraparound mudguards with complex and frankly geeky wire supports, a basic clip on set from Halfords does the job, and looks cool. You don't need thick clothing or coats. It doesn't rain nearly as much in this country as people think it does. Wind chill on your knuckles is about as bad as it gets. A thin pair of gloves is fine, and fits in your pockets

I basically potter along on a basic mountain bike, looking for all the world like just a fat lad on a bike. Which amuses, since with the exception of the speedsters with rippling calves and clip in peddles, who you rarely see if you're not on the roads, my route knowledge, fitness and indeed top speed, if required, is vastly superior to those in lycra and bikes whose price/spec is so far beyond their evident need, it makes me weep for humanity. Thanks to a built up bike fitness, I only get sweaty if I choose to, or there is a particularly steep hill.

Thanks to bike fitness, I could scarcely believe how far I was able to comfortably ride after only a few months of gradually extending my range. Probably far beyond what you're imagining. It's been incredible for leisure, meaning I now don't think twice about biking to places where I would have otherwise spent maybe an hour each way, changing buses and trains.

Exercise is now fun, and an integral part of leisure. You wouldn't believe how interesting and calming that cycling is. I didn't. I've explored places I'd never even thought of going, even though many were in easy driving distance. I discovered most by chance. Places previously viewed as a rare day out, are now common to the point of tedious. You're going to the beach again? It's miles away. Damn right I am. Doing the whole flipping coast. Legend.

On occasion, I am out and about with children. You might think they're fragile nervous things. Not a bit of it. They love bikes. The freedom and speed. And they can ride well at a surprisingly young age. It makes no sense to look at them. It must be something relating to power to weight ratio. Not going on the roads, and with hamlets and reflectors, they're perfectly safe.

I know for a fact that me cycling has meant they go to more places and have seen and done more fun things, than the current alternative of having to figure out how to get there by public transport. In theory, the car offered freedom. In reality, when I had one, my first thought on hearing their request to go somewhere, was finding an excuse not to. Don't know why, probably parking or distraction or car seats, but it's the complete opposite with bikes. They love it, and so do I.

Even mundane activites likes doing a decent supermarket shop, became surprisingly possible with the bike. With a mere rucksack, I can do that almost as quickly as I could with the car, never mind walking or taking the bus. It means I stay fit and am even less inclined to eat junk food or takeout.

Popping out for any reason, I now consider the bike first. Walking anywhere for any reason now feels like a slow and painful torture. Going for a walk, as as activity, now sounds faintly ridiculous. My world feels so much bigger, even when compared to when I had a car.

And then the real bonus. With bike fitness and route knowledge, I started to realise how many commutes I could forgoe the bus/train. Its pretty insane, an hour bike ride gets you pretty far. Particularly when you can cycle around a city or along a river, rather than following the hub/spoke mandate of road networks, and the necessary change of bus/train.

I'm speaking remember as someone who is bike fit, but not road bike fit. If I tried to commute at road speeds, I would die of either a heart attack or being run over. I choose life. But I also like money. There's nothing like knowing that on any given day, 100% of your wage is pure profit. No petrol, no bus/train fare. Makes the sunny days nicer and the bleak days more bearable. The door to door convenience is amazing.

And now I have tasted freedom and constant motion door to door, there's seemingly nothing more bleak than waiting in a bus or train station in any weather, with all the other miserable downtrodden masses and stressed out commuters. I've even found cycling in frosty conditions strangely envigorating, so I do it both for commuting and leisure.

I'd forgotten everything I ever knew as a child about how to maintain and fix bikes. But it really isn't hard. A proper tyre with the thick rubber puncture guard is a wise investment. I rarely get a punctures now, it wasn't like it was a common occurance before. But when I did, it's easily fixed, even when you're out and about. You can either try and repair the hole, or change the tube. The latter is easier, out and about. All you need is a spare tube, a spanner, two tyre levers (plastic thingies), and the know how. Oh, and a pump. All of that fits in my pockets, quite easily.

You're not likely to encounter any other issues that are beyond your means, if you can operate basic hand tools. And to be honest, issues are so rare, and Halfords are so nice, being an utterly clueless owner of a bike, is a far better and cheaper experience than being clueless about cars.

With only a little knowledge, and without any wish to become a bike nerd, I found it easy to even strip off the parts I knew I wouldn't need, and downgrade the brakes to a design I was more comfortable adjusting/maintaining/fixing. Not that you need to do any of that at all. Honestly, I did it simply because the ones I like, look cooler. Once you are bike fit, you only need five gears, so that usually means you can remove a whole bunch of stuff, saving weight.

On even the most basic bike, once you know the fundamentals of what makes the wheels go round, stop and change gears, there's very little that even needs adjusting, and it's easy to do if you do. Some bikes are complicated, but the cheap ones really aren't. Cable/pad brakes, chain and five speed gear. Two wheels, one seat.

I didn't want a bike that cost a lot, mainly because I knew I'd be wanting wanting park it up. But you can pick up decent bikes second hand very cheaply. While you never want your bike stolen, I have found that when the thief realizes the bike lock costs about the same as the bike, they're going to move on. As a result, I happily keep mine in the shed, which is hardly a secure vault. And make no mistake, my bike is cool. Just not worth stealing. Or more likely, the risk of being caught stealing it.

Obviously I don't cycle everywhere. Distance is still the limiter. As is being with people who don't want to cycle. But probably could. And I'm not a fool, I don't completely ignore the weather. I'm not one of those people. But it's fair to say, even with those limitations, I am cycle.

I would gladly extend my range, if buses could be combined with bikes. I love buses. I do not see them as the competion to bikes. The competition is the urban and rural realm itself. I can probably only do what I do because I am blessed to live in an area with numerous bridelways, river paths and disused railways, ironically. Modern cycle lanes offer little, except where they're upgrading those traditional lines of non-car/bus communication. There's a reason for that.

I occasionally use the train with my bike, but honestly, it's rare that a bike-train combination (without a bus) is necessary for commuting, and it doesn't really offer that much in terms of leisure. What it does offer, I could easily get from buying an estate car or van conversion.

I ride the rail with a bike more as a curiosity, an experience in of itself, than as a means to an end. I did it the other day. You should do it once in a while as a cyclist, of only to remind yourself of the epic distances you're covering on the bike, without even thinking about it. Even at 75mph, the train seems to take an age to cover what I can ride in an hour along the parallel cycle path.

So a railway that cared about leisure travellers, would be nice. Because I can get a car. Easily. I just don't want one. But I love cycling, and evidently so much, I'd be lying if I hadn't considered the seemingly insane step of buying one purely to convey my bike and thus extend my range. But I am not, never have been and never will be, one of the lycra set. So no bike rack, or amusing window stickers.
 
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A near fatal accident put me off cycling; when my cleats wouldn't disengage the pedals and I went over, onto the asphalt, with my head in front of a rapidly approaching London taxi.

Until latter August, 12 miles of dog walking per day, plus occasional rowing, did for me. The dog walking regime will re-commence in a few weeks.:)
 

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A near fatal accident put me off cycling; when my cleats wouldn't disengage the pedals and I went over, onto the asphalt, with my head in front of a rapidly approaching London taxi.

I never quite understood why people use this type of pedal in an urban setting - it does seem to add risk - flat pedals and normal shoes are more practical for urban cycling.
 

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I never quite understood why people use this type of pedal in an urban setting - it does seem to add risk - flat pedals and normal shoes are more practical for urban cycling.

Gotta get that King of the Mountain Strava badge somehow!

(Agreed; I commuted for over ten years in town along the A24 / A3 / A11 and never understood why people felt the need to wear cleats in such a dense traffic environment.)
 

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Lack of segregation from other traffic completely puts me off cycling for short journeys into and around my local town. I tend to walk instead, despite it taking considerably longer. There are a few painted cycle lanes but not on the roads I would need to use, and some difficult right hand turns particularly at unsignalled t-junctions.
 

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It's great see a positive topic on cycling and glad you've found what a great activity it is.

I was never bothered about cycling since it was just something that was a hassle when I was younger before I could drive but in 2011 I needed to get home quickly and back each day at lunchtime so I couldn't work like I normally did and started using the car. Since it was a diesel with a DPF I knew it wasn't good for it however when the turbo started making a whistling noise that was the push to get a bike so I chose a hybrid bike with a belt drive, gear hub and disc/drum brakes since I wanted something reliable and simple in all weather conditions. When I received the bike I signed up for a 26 mile charity cycle at work which absolutely wrecked me however I was surprised how much I enjoyed it, over the next year I cycled every day and then approaching the next time the event was on I put the bike in for a repair. What shocked me was how much I missed it and I hadn't realised I preferred it to the car since I could easily go anywhere without worrying about traffic or parking then on the second time on the charity cycle I was half an hour faster plus it felt easy compared to the previous year. That was a huge boost to me so I decided the next year I wanted to try the 50 mile version leading to me purchasing a mountain bike to join an off road group (that was a steep learning curve) then bought a road bike the year after.

Since then I've massively built up my riding and wouldn't be without my bikes now. The physical benefits are tremendous since I have endurance capabilities far beyond what I thought I could do but it's the mental benefits that keep me going with it since I've not found any better way to deal with stress and other issues. I've reduced my car use by about 90% now which there's obviously savings for, similarly I'm frustrated at the issues taking bikes onto trains which would reduce my car usage further, the bike and train could be a good mix. I was pleased to find a bus company allowed bikes onto their buses even a big MTB like mine which opens up the options on where I can take it.

In terms of barriers for people cycling, the lack of suitable infrastructure is always talked about and I think it's very true. During covid when the main roads were quiet it was great to see many more people cycling including families and others you rarely see. However towards the end of the first lockdown when the cars were coming back those people all disappeared again and unfortunately the temporary measures to help bikes here all disappeared too. I don't blame either since I've never got my full confidence back for road cycling after the covid lockdowns, I do most of my road cycle training indoors now since I don't enjoy near misses with cars but lets me do the big rides I want.

I used to volunteer with a local social enterprise which was aimed at helping getting people into cycling and it was hugely helpful, many of the people coming on the rides didn't understand the basics of cycling (how to use the gears, brakes, how to set up the bike) which some take for granted but for these people having cycle leaders who could help them set up and use the bikes and show good cycling routes through town. I gather there's not many places like this to help people get started with cycling and tragically I think the local one here is going to stop operating.
 

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I never wanted to ride on roads, and was glad to realise you don't really need to.

I definitely would have to where I am.

And so the (probably irrational) fear of going under a lorry puts me off
 

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I never quite understood why people use this type of pedal in an urban setting - it does seem to add risk - flat pedals and normal shoes are more practical for urban cycling.
With two flat pedals, I have had some big wobbles when one foot has slipped off the pedal.

I like having a toe clip on one pedal and a flat pedal on the other. I can get my foot into the toe clip before I set off. The toe clip stops that foot from slipping off the pedal, and if the other foot slips off, the toe clip stops the crank from spinning around.

I tried SPD pedals, but I've got wide feet. Its bad enough finding normal shoes that fit, let alone cycling shoes. If I was racing, then the extra efficiency from stiff soles might have been useful. I was either cycling as transport or exercise, so it wasn't worthwhile.
 

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I would love to, but most cities in the UK have very little cycling infrastructure beyond a few white lines painted by the side of the road. I live in Liverpool where few people cycle because you have to share the road with maniac drivers.

I look at Dutch cities with envy, I wish we had leaders who took cycling seriously as a solution to congestion and pollution.
 

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I cycled to travel to Primary School some of the time (but not always, walking was also common).
But when I started High School I stopped cycling in favour of the school bus (which takes longer than cycling would but it's quite hilly).

I cycled on a beach on holiday recently, and I immediately picked up the movement, but my muscles were not ready for the task (especially since the first thing I did was go as fast as I could, spraying wet sand and water everywhere, completely exhausting me).

I no longer have a bike, nor the need for one, my commute is now by train, and I make relatively few local journeys that would suit a bike.
 

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I do cycle, but I'm very much a fair-weather rider; It has to be warm, dry, sunny and not too windy! Therefore I have not been out on my bike since September, and probably won't again until March/April. I simply don't enjoy cycling in the cold and wet.

Another factor is the hills around where I live, no matter where you go there will be a steep climb to be tackled, sooner or later. Therefore I sometimes take my bike on the train to a flatter locality - A ride I very much enjoyed was Falkirk to Glasgow along the Forth & Clyde Canal, flat all the way!
 

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Unfortunately my commute is too long (10 km) and it will take much longer than using public transport so I don't commonly do that, unless I wish to cycle elsewhere after work.

Even for my short journeys to my local pool, I don't cycle all the way because there is a hill (Hampstead Heath - so the Mildmay line goes through a tunnel between Finchley Road & Frognal and Hampstead Heath).

However, I always cycle if the public transport provision is bad.
 

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I do cycle, but I'm very much a fair-weather rider; It has to be warm, dry, sunny and not too windy! Therefore I have not been out on my bike since September, and probably won't again until March/April. I simply don't enjoy cycling in the cold and wet.
What will you do when it is rainy and windy, but your journey doesn't have good public transport coverage?
 
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I cycled on quiet country roads as a child and teen and living here in Milton Keynes then using the redways, for pleasure not for commuting, for very many years.

Then about five years ago we were about to go out for a bike ride with our grandson and I suddenly said "I can't do this", I no longer felt safe on two wheels.
I haven't cycled since and gave my bike to my sister.

I have looked at getting a tricycle which would, I hope, solve the feeling of being unsafe on two wheels but they are rather bulky, even the folding ones, to carry in the boot of the car if we wanted to go cycling somewhere we couldn't set off from home and I'm not yet prepared to invest that money on something I'm not sure I would now use enough to justify the cost.
 

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Should have included an option of it being far too hilly. :D
Perhaps. But hopefully people see from my post that if a fat lad on a bike with 5 gears who lives in a pretty standard for the UK river valleys / undulating terrain region can do it, they probably can too.

Like most people in the UK I assume, I don't live in an area flat enough to completely avoid inclines on even a short bike ride. North, south, east and west all feature gradients of some description, even a circuit around the nearest rec ground. So the best I can usually do is decide if I want to work a little harder on the way out or the way back.

Part of the fun in the early days was in working out routes to find the most efficient way over or around hills. It's a bike, so it goes pretty quick on the flat or minor grades, so you don't lose much time by going on quite circuitous diversionary routes if you're not looking to work too hard.

Once you're bike fit, you actually then want a few routes with inclines, long slow shallow runs, former railway paths, to get some decent exercise in. The current vogue for tarmaccing shared use paths to a shiny sheen, has meant that while on the one hand you can go further and ride faster on the flat, on the other, even a fat lad like me has to now work pretty hard and reach possibly dangerous speeds, just to get a sweat on.

There are plenty of inclines near me that are steep enough that I'm choosing not to climb them unless I had to, or I'm specifically looking for a serious fat burning ride. Hills where you basically need to be out of the seat, working hard. A few of my commutes have hills that get me working hard while seated, especially if you're trying to keep to a time. But it's still worth it, rather than actually taking longer to walk or use public transport.

And like I said, these are all hills which would have killed me when I started, but feel much easier with bike fitness. Many I just walked up, pushing the bike, in the early days (also a good way to get fit). Now I don't need to do that on any of my usual rides.

But if it came down to it, or if I lived in a horrendously hilly area like West Yorkshire, I'm pretty sure investing in a bike with many more gears, would suffice. You only need bike fitness, not Iron Man fitness. No hill would be too steep, or if it was, it's likely a mental thing not a physical thing. I'm powerful enough now that on rough/loose ground, it's the coefficient of friction that fails me before my legs do. It's a good feeling to be that powerful. I have the calves of a Greek God, while still having the belly of a Roman Governor.

Counter-intuitively, what I found is that as a casual bike rider looking for general fitness, it's probably worth your while first using all terrain knobbly tyres, standard MTB tyres, for the extra resistance on the flat, and the sure footedness on dirt/gravel as you learn routes and start to tackle hills. Only once you're bike fit and have a good sense of where the limit of grip is, does it make sense to possibly downgrade to a hybrid tyre, so you can ride much further due to the lower rolling resistance. Or stick with MTB tyres if indeed dirt/trail biking does it for you. Doesn't for me. You definitely don't need road tyres if you're not aiming to cycle at road speeds.

I'm naturally lazy and not exactly career focused, but the lure of a wage and heart health does wonders for the will to beat a hill. Once bike fit, to my very great surprise, you even sometimes do it just because it's there, that mad looking incline. Perhaps even because I know I've not got long before my knees mean I couldn't do the steeper inclines even if I wanted to.

It can even simply be the lure of the destination. There's a museum near me that's 13 miles away, but well worth the hills to reach it. But funnily enough, the mere time/expense/hassle to go by bus instead, is enough to put me off. It's only a 20 minute drive, but for whatever reason, perhaps just the joy of the journey, I've visited it way more times on the bike than I ever did when I had a car.

And in my experience, for those out of your seat hills, as bad as it might be, it's not exactly a breeze to walk up them either. Precisely because I'm not super fit, just bike fit. It's one of those things you need to experience to realise, how quickly hills of any description that seemed a challenge if not impossible at first, get easier with bike fitness. The same certainly doesn't seem to be the case with walking, since most people are probably already walking fit.

A basic rule of thumb for the steep hills I've found is this. If you're cycling up a hill at walking speed, any walking speed, then in my experience, you're going to be less knackered than if you walked up it at the same walking speed. But for most hills, bike fitness means you're going to get up it faster than anyone could walk it. Even if that does still mean the average runner passes the fat lad on the bike quite easily. It's fine, since on the flat or downhill, it's they who are suddenly moving in treacle and having far less fun.
 

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Although I cycled to and from the station regularly for 19 years before I retired, mainly on quiet residential back streets, through the park, pedestrianised areas where cycling was allowed and so on, this stopped when I retired and moved to the Peak District.

The OP definitely needs a few more 'negative options', certainly including steep hills (I now live on a long 1:5), potholes (diabolical), bike getting nicked if parked up (too many visitors with work vans full of bikes around who can 'accidentally' load up an extra one); add more vehicles to the Car and Bus list (heavy lorries, agricultural vehicles driven by 16-year-olds, motorcyclists on wrong side of roads, etc.); road 'design' (narrow, winding carriageways hard between dry stone walls, blind summits and hidden dips); and environmental conditions (regular flooding, mud and manure all over the road, strong headwinds apparently in all directions, roads not treated in icy and snowy conditions, loose gravel...).

I need the car to take my bike for occasional rides on the 'trails' - disused railways, canal towpaths and forest tracks.

To get to a supermarket means a 30-45 minute drive over roads up to over 1,000ft in any direction. Totally infeasible to cycle there and back unless you are Tour de France standard.
 

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Personally because I live in a place where a bicycle is likely to get stolen.
 

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No option just for "nowhere to store one securely". I can afford any cycle I want, but if I'm spending a wedge on an electric bike (which is needed where I live as its years since I cycled regularly) I need somewhere at home to keep it locked away, that is something I don't have.
 

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I never quite understood why people use this type of pedal in an urban setting - it does seem to add risk - flat pedals and normal shoes are more practical for urban cycling.
Cleats can be dangerous but so can a foot slipping of the pedal
I use old fashioned clips and straps which I leave loose.
 

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Personally because I live in a place where a bicycle is likely to get stolen.
Exact same reason here, key places that I would love to cycle to such as rail station and towns for lunch/ shopping are not safe enough to leave your bike locked anywhere.

Having had two bikes nicked from a tube station bike rack on the main high street in clear view of people & cameras, the police were just not interested.
 

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My answer would be "I prefer walking/buses" since I am always happy to walk 3/4 miles to go somewhere and I am fortunate enough to have the time, and for longer journeys I'll take a bus/train. I think I just prefer walking mainly because I can listen to music and just chill whereas on a bike (at least if its on roads) it seems quite stressful and you need to be alert and paying attention.
Add to that I'm only a 20 minute walk from Reading Station at home and everywhere I need to go at uni is within a 15 minute walk and there just isn't really any reason to cycle places.
 

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To get to a supermarket means a 30-45 minute drive over roads up to over 1,000ft in any direction. Totally infeasible to cycle there and back unless you are Tour de France standard.
Ignoring any other reasons, isnt that what an appropriately suited to hill climbing electric bike is good for..?
 

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Ignoring any other reasons, isnt that what an appropriately suited to hill climbing electric bike is good for..?
An interesting point (although I’d be worried about security at the supermarket). A neighbour (younger than me) spent £1,000 on an electric bike and found that it could only manage about 25 miles locally. I don’t know how familiar you are with Winatts Pass and Snake Pass ( on the way to Buxton, Chapel-en-le-Frith or Glossop) but a round trip would eat through the charge.

(Plenty of other less-notorious climbs are also available around here.)
 

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Sadly, at my place of employment, the "drowned rat in the rain" and/or the "sweaty like a certain Prince after a night at Pizza Express" looks aren't professionally acceptable yet.

Not to mention that I tend to get a bit of kip on the bus in, even if its timekeeping it quite poor; if I was to cycle in, I would be knackered on arrival and performing nowhere near my best; seeing as I work vaguely in rail on the design side of TRU and MML, I would rather make sure I'm firing on all cylinders at work, rather than turning up cold, sweaty, miserable, and knackered before even firing up my laptop.
 

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South Manchester and North Cheshire are eminently suitable for cycling with better than average infrastructure and not too many significant hills (apart from Lancashire Hill, Stockport you b...). There are significant numbers of cyclists today, wheras 30 yrs ago it was rather niche. Yes there are plenty of students, but there lots of other folk of all ages using bikes as their daily driver. Safety in numbers, I think, because it helps that motorists and bus drivers are used to us and are generally pretty courteous.

I have a theory about one generation of motorists, however, who grew up in the '80s - Thatcher's children if you will - who never rode bikes as kids. They are now late middle aged / early retired and generally drive stupid SUVs. They are the worst for close passes, left hooks etc and you get the usual 'Daily Mail' abuse - you don't pay road tax / insurance , roads are for cars etc. etc. Conversely I find younger drivers tend to pass with plenty of room as if you were a car, which is great.
 

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It's cars. It's always cars.

Hot/sweaty, wet/dirty, and not fit enough are fixed by an e-bike (no, I have no idea why it's easier to cycle in the rain with an e-bike, but it really is). Cars aren't. I used to man stands for our local Sustrans volunteer group at a festival, with the aim of encouraging people to try cycling. The answer to "why not?" was, without exception, cars.

I have a theory about one generation of motorists, however, who grew up in the '80s - Thatcher's children if you will - who never rode bikes as kids. They are now late middle aged / early retired and generally drive stupid SUVs. They are the worst for close passes, left hooks etc and you get the usual 'Daily Mail' abuse - you don't pay road tax / insurance , roads are for cars etc. etc. Conversely I find younger drivers tend to pass with plenty of room as if you were a car, which is great.
Yep. The biggest problems are essentially from demographics (and Thatcher's children aren't the only ones) who have been conditioned to see a car as a status symbol. The more expensive the car, the more successful you must be. Conversely, if you have a bike, you're a failure.
 

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Yep. The biggest problems are essentially from demographics (and Thatcher's children aren't the only ones) who have been conditioned to see a car as a status symbol. The more expensive the car, the more successful you must be. Conversely, if you have a bike, you're a failure.

Is that actually true everywhere? The impression I have is that plenty of middle aged men dress in Lycra and ride a £5K road bike (when one a third of the price would do them just fine) for exactly the same sort of status symbol as a fancy car.
 

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I've been cycling since 1957 and don't own a car: it would be a liability here in Oxford. I did read somewhere that at any one time 96% of cars are stationary, but a lot of local residents like to have their car waiting outside just in case they need it. There's fierce opposition in Oxford to further restrictions on car use in the city and a long way to go before we reach Dutch levels of safe-cycling infrastructure. We live about 500 metes from the station but it's about 10 kilometres by car as Botley Road is closed indefinitely.

I think a lot more people would cycle if they thought it was safe; so they drive cars in such numbers that it makes cycling less safe - a vicious circle. I recommend a visit to Utrecht in the Netherlands to see how a civilised society organises urban travel.
 

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