Tetragon213
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Oddly enough, Nico Rosberg (2016 Formula 1 World Champion) stopped cycling over the 2015/2016 off-season, specifically to lose about a kilo's worth of leg muscle mass. It's likely that this nabbed him pole at Suzuka.
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telstarbox
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I have a personal connection to this one, but it's also of broader interest: this is the public inquiry for a proposed new garden village in Kent with around 8,000 houses. As part of the Statement of Case, there's been a strong emphasis on cycling infrastructure—particularly highlighting e-bikes as a "gateway drug" to broader cycling adoption.
The relevant discussion begins around 5 h 50 mins into the session. This is run by the Planning Inspectorate at Swale Borough Council.
The relevant discussion begins around 5 h 50 mins into the session. This is run by the Planning Inspectorate at Swale Borough Council.
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styles
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Always amuses me watching things like inquiries. The sheer amount of work from experienced and knowledgeable highways officers and transport planners which goes into even fairly short sections of road.
Then left to the full council meeting, much like PMQs, all sort of nuance just goes out of the window and you've got councillors who have no intention of changing their position, which is often presented in a polarised way, just rambling about their prejudices.
It's a bit like 'low traffic neighbourhoods' - most councillors are either for all LTNs or against all LTNs, rather than a sort of, well these 5 LTNs look good but maybe not these 2, or this one maybe needs tweaking, or whatever.
telstarbox
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This one in particular has had years of work and got the highways officers on side. The expert for the opposing parties has been a bit disingenuous in my view.
My comment about LTN's would be if they're so bad, we therefore should try and build through roads linking through as many cul-de-sacs as possible.
Generally the issue is people don't like change and so the same people who give reasons for not creating LTN's would be the very same people who would be as strongly opposed to linking through cul-de-sacs.
Also people want to rat-run through other people's neighbourhoods, but they don't want people rat-running through theirs.
styles
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Yeah I mean I'm generally in favour of one-way or no-thru-route streets and cul-de-sacs. I just think the nuance is often lost, e.g. in Lambeth where most of theirs are good but at least one is awful. If you ask any councillor though they'll be all for all of them or against all of them.
Is that all?
I live at the top of a 1-in-6 hill. Electric assistance would make easy work of it.
As does an ICE
Trainbike46
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Isn't that covered by "I don't think I'm fit enough" or "I don't want to get hot and sweaty"
Regardless, I would say an electric bike would resolve the issue either way!
For which you need to find parking, fund fuel/maintenance/insurance/depreciation etc.As does an ICE
Sounds like a lot of bother to me. Apart from the environmental concerns
Tetragon213
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Would be nice if a good e-bike didn't cost more than a motorbike...
How high a hill?
As I've said before, the average cost of car ownership is £3,600 per year, even at half that rate (£1,800) you could (probably) be able to get a new bike which was reasonable.
This review has several around that price point:
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SHD
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A good new e-bike can be bought for £2,000. You won't get much of a new motorbike for two grand. And even if you did, the use costs are in another league for the motorbike.
Case in point:
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johncrossley
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Bike theft is too much of a risk for expensive bikes unless you never leave it outside. Yes there is insurance but of course that costs a lot if you have an expensive bike.
Unlike the UK, Dutch bike insurance doesn't require bikes to be secured to an immovable object. Insurance will pay out as long as the rear wheel is locked. It is common practice in the Netherlands to leave a bike parked in this manner.
Unlike the UK, Dutch bike insurance doesn't require bikes to be secured to an immovable object. Insurance will pay out as long as the rear wheel is locked. It is common practice in the Netherlands to leave a bike parked in this manner.
3rd rail land
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I had a bike worth £3400 stolen earlier this year. Claiming on insurance was super easy and the the standalone insurance I had for my bike was £88/year which included £250 of cover for accessories. The cost is now £103/year which in part reflects the replacement bike's RRP of £3800.
I still park the replacement bike outside but when I do I use 2 diamond rated D locks these days. I will admit I haven't had any reason to go back to the area my previous bike was stolen from since the incident. It's simply not possible to take my bike inside of every place I go to.
I am able to park it inside my flat and never leave it outside overnight.
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Did your insurance have an excess?
3rd rail land
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Yes, £50.
Falcon1200
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I was knocked off my bike by a careless motorist in April and that has seriously affected my confidence - Since then, despite May and June usually have good weather here in Scotland, I have only been out once.
Sorry to hear that you were hit by a car, however, I would suggest that it's worth getting back out on your bike.
Whilst statistics aren't always reassuring, the risk of serious injury or death is 1 per million miles and whilst this is 20 times higher than by car many people do significantly more miles by car than by bike so the risk (for a lot of people) probably isn't anywhere near that different. Especially if you consider the health risks with being inactive.
However, I would say that cycling is enjoyable for many, if that is the case for you then please don't let the poor skill of a driver spoil that joy for you.
If you would find it helpful start of small and build back up to what you used to do.
Although I'm also mindful that I don't know the circumstances, how you feel about the incident or 100 other things which influence how you are feeling. However, I suspect that you were perhaps hoping that someone would say something which they hoped was encouraging for you to get back in your bike which is why you've said about it on here - if I've miss read that then sorry.
Falcon1200
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Not at all, thanks for your words of encouragement.
johncrossley
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Is there analysis of cycle accidents based on type of road, whether on a cycle path or not, whether a motor vehicles was involved or not etc. ? For example, if most accidents occur on main roads, then you can drastically reduce your risk by avoiding them where possible.