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Words and phrases recently introduced into the English language.
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D6130
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Yes....I usually say "Could I have....?", using the conditional tense, followed by "please".
Factoid is a useful word when used correctly.
It has also been around for nearly 50 years, so it's not been 'recently introduced' as per thread title.
D821
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Languages are constantly evolving entities, as I heard a linguist once say. Certain phrases fall out of use and are replaced by others.
Please and thank you shouldn't be considered superfluous, though.
Please and thank you shouldn't be considered superfluous, though.
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I'd suggest how polite (or not) someone is being is a bit different to the language they are using though.
And whilst it may not be "correct English", if someone is asking "can I get xx please" pr even "give me xx please", you know what they are trying to communicate!
Xenophon PCDGS
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Who to blame? Parents when used at home or teachers when used at school and the matter not being corrected in those situations?
I understood that "Give me a..." is from the USA, maybe specifically New York, where courtesy is not common or normal.
In an old ISIHAC Jack Dee said something like "The difference between US and UK English is that they say "Aluminum" and "Baysil," whereas we say "Please" and "Thank-you!""
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Agree. 100%.
I've only just started reading this thread. I still don't really know what 'woke' means.
But for my two euro cents' worth:
Depending on what you mean by "recently" - I proffer the expression "back to back" - which I only first encountered on the (dreadful) Voice of America Europe radio (which was not the same Voice of America, except for the news bits) in 1990.
The most annoying, inane, illogical expression introduced into ANY language by our Americian cousins, some of whom, presumbably, had trouble saying (and surelyi speliing) the word "consecutive".
Not a new word, but it seems to have inundated much discussion in recent years, is the excessive use of the word "literally" which is frequently used when it isn't - including by BBC commentators.
If someone drops dead, they drop dead. That's it! They don't "literally" drop dead. It is either false usage, or redundant.
Grumpily yours, literally, your site linguistic conservative old f.... ogey, 70014IronDuke.
krus_aragon
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A few years back (on a tech news website I frequent) a lot of people seemed to be getting worked up about the Alt-Right. I looked at my keyboard and asked if they're also concerned about the left Ctrl key...
Gloster
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I associate ‘back to back’ with the ‘Glorious Glosters’.
Probably best not to mention the [End] key.
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I've no way of proving this, but I believe the expression was used in the USA in the late nineteenth century for two steam engines pulling a train, with the second one operating backwards, caused by the need for cowcatchers on the front which, presumably, could not be removed easily.
Madge Wildfire
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This happens on many groups these days. Moderators mis-interpret their role as being censors.
Wilts Wanderer
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“England into Final” appears to be a phrase that has started reappearing in the last year or so, after quite a long absenve…
Xenophon PCDGS
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Is "absenve" another of these new words?
Gloster
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It is the result of drinking excessive amounts of a French, aniseed-flavour apéritif.
Bletchleyite
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Regarding "leverage" (short E) as a nasty business-speak Americanised verb above, it can also mean "use", "re-use", "repurpose" or "steal" with an implied benefit to the person or organisation doing the "leveraging", e.g. "I leveraged the existing code to provide a solution for another customer at no cost to us". I totally refuse to use it (leverage it?) in a business context and always have, I'll always use one of the UK English analogies depending on the exact context.
Another one is "I was like X" - sort of means "I reacted like this: X". It's a bit annoying but does add a construct that wasn't there before, and means more than just "I said X", usually it's accompanied by a full "acting" (speech, emphasis and body language) of how the speaker reacted to the original thing.
Another one is "I was like X" - sort of means "I reacted like this: X". It's a bit annoying but does add a construct that wasn't there before, and means more than just "I said X", usually it's accompanied by a full "acting" (speech, emphasis and body language) of how the speaker reacted to the original thing.
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Isn't "I was like X" just a filler, instead of 'erm' or 'um'. In practice, it is worse than ums and erms because it is a word with other meanings and usage. To me it can be as irritating as a person saying 'mate' at the end of evey phrase or sentence.
I used to work in a shop and some people would say ' gimme'. It was non native English speakers on the whole.
I think the majority of people will have heard of cosplay, it's been around for a long time and, although not for me, seems quite popular across a wide range of people.
D821
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I knew of people doing it at uni 20+ years ago, it's not a new thing.
AlterEgo
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Most normies won't have heard of cosplay. It barely ever appears in literature and I have never ever heard anyone say the word out loud.
The word "quixotic" appears twice as frequently in books as does "cosplay".
The word "quixotic" appears twice as frequently in books as does "cosplay".
I've never heard of cosplsy or normies
I'm not sure if agree but then I don't know what a normie is
I've never heard of cosplsy which sounds like a medical condition but cosplay is widely used often in conjunction with comicon
Bletchleyite
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No. I've explained what it means - basically "I was like X" is similar to "I said X" but implies that the speaker will act in full how they reacted including emphasis and body language. It's more of "I reacted in this way: X".
Comparison:
"He said I should go home, but I said no, I wasn't going to go until I had been paid"
"He said I should go home, but I was like <waves arms and shrugs shoulders, angry voice>you can forget that until I've been paid!"
A normal, average person not into that specific thing. Same as the term "normal" used by railway enthusiasts to describe an average passenger with little background railway knowledge.
Cosplay is a millennial thing other than in very niche pursuits like re-enactment. I would expect most under-35-ish people would know what it meant but almost no over 35s. So if a politician says it they're trying to be trendy and "down wiv da yoof(ish)".
Gloster
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What is ‘comicon’. (It is not even in spellcheck.)
I had thought it was one word, turns out it's not.
Comic book convention - Wikipedia
Not something I've attended but seem remarkably popular with some people.
See also
Fan convention - Wikipedia
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Ralph Ayres
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How about using the word "shop" when they mean "buy"? Adverts will often invite me to "Shop our new range of xxx". Possibly it's because many people now treat shopping as a leisure activity in its own right but buying something is more directly associated with the painful bit of actually paying.
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