Well I can assure you that it isn't at Adlington.
I wouldn't know and didn't claim it to be the case in respect of your thread, it was in response to whether Northern are pushing towards it.
Well I can assure you that it isn't at Adlington.
From posts on the forum I was left with the impression that over the last few months Northern has been making a big push towards pay before boarding.
It's not really fair in the cosmic sense but it's no different to one person getting a ticket for speeding and someone else not getting one the next day going the same speed in the same location.
I agree its a mess.
I boarded a service today at a Northern no ticket office station. Next station has a ticket office, passenger got on and guard happily sold her a ticket after he sold me mine.
No mention from him that she should have purchased before boarding.
Every station I have been to for the last 6 months or so has 'Buy Before You Board' displayed on the PIS as part of the page cycle, well, the ones that have been working at least.
From posts on the forum I was left with the impression that over the last few months Northern has been making a big push towards pay before boarding.
Have they? I can't say it has impinged on my consciousness. I must say that since local ticket machines have switched to card only and since none of my credit cards work, I am now more frequently boarding without payment. I can't remember a guard even asking why I didn't have a ticket.
A passenger cannot legitimately be penalised for failure to pay if they had no opportunity to pay.Any comments?
A passenger cannot legitimately be penalised for failure to pay if they had no opportunity to pay.
Not if you want to pay with cash.Would a card only facility be considered an opportunity to pay?
Not if you want to pay with cash.
To be fair you if you didn't board at the station you have no idea whether that ticket office was open and operational. If it was a one person, one machine office it's possible the only staff member phoned in sick or that the machine was out-of-order.
Not if you want to pay with cash.
At the opposite end of how this can pan out a colleague was submitting a complaint today after getting a hard time from a guard earlier this week and threatened for not having a ticket.
The station only has a ticket machine and it wasn't working. He was told its up to him to prove it wasn't.
Out of curiosity, how did the staff at Victoria know that your daughter travelled without a ticket (apart from her telling them obviously)? Is there automatic barriers at Victoria?
What I'm getting at is, could they prove beyond reasonable doubt (taking your daughter's confession aside for the moment) that your daughter had travelled without a valid ticket?