EMR class 156s for Northern

[superkev]

So which 156s are going to northern and which ones are staying with EMR?

Ive lost track but at one time units for Northern I think were 156 401-404, 412-15, 419, 422, 907, 909, 916, 917, 918.
401, 402, 412, 415 have been with Nothern since 2021.
Anyone update and regards liberties and renumberings.
Thanks
K

 

[D365]

I was under the impression that EMR will stand down all their 156s... unless they are keeping some for Liverpool-Norwich?

 

[LowLevel]

I was under the impression that EMR will stand down all their 156s... unless they are keeping some for Liverpool-Norwich?

They are. I don't know whether the remainder have homes lined up or not, if they have it hasn't been announced.

The last update we had was all 156s to finish before next summer.

 

[170UTD]

RTT has the transfer taking place as planned. Ended up at Newton Heath T.M.D 40 minutes early. Presume it was 414/422 (414 being dropped at ATC Crewe) can anyone confirm?

Etches Park Sdgs to Crewe C.S.:

Realtime Trains | 5N42 1410 Etches Park Sdgs to Crewe C.S. | 16/10/2022

Real-time train running information for 5N42 1410 departure from Etches Park Sdgs to Crewe C.S. on 16/10/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Crewe C.S. to Newton Heath T.M.D.:

Realtime Trains | 5N38 1646 Crewe C.S. to Newton Heath T.M.D. | 16/10/2022

Real-time train running information for 5N38 1646 departure from Crewe C.S. to Newton Heath T.M.D. on 16/10/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[skyhigh]

RTT has the transfer taking place as planned. Ended up at Newton Heath T.M.D 40 minutes early. Presume it was 414/422 (414 being dropped at ATC Crewe) can anyone confirm?

Etches Park Sdgs to Crewe C.S.:

Realtime Trains | 5N42 1410 Etches Park Sdgs to Crewe C.S. | 16/10/2022

Real-time train running information for 5N42 1410 departure from Etches Park Sdgs to Crewe C.S. on 16/10/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Crewe C.S. to Newton Heath T.M.D.:

Realtime Trains | 5N38 1646 Crewe C.S. to Newton Heath T.M.D. | 16/10/2022

Real-time train running information for 5N38 1646 departure from Crewe C.S. to Newton Heath T.M.D. on 16/10/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Yes 414 and 422.

 

[gka472l]

156422 noted at Crewe approx 1630ish on it's own, looked to be awaiting a signal awaiting a route to the Manchester line.....

 

[BPN2022]

Has 156422 entered service yet with Northern?

 

[skyhigh]

Has 156422 entered service yet with Northern?

No.

 

[170UTD]

Might be a bit soon but does anyone know what and when the next transfer will happen? Surely it can't be too far away as 5 156s need to be with Northern by the December TT change.

 

[diligentdave]

Might be a bit soon but does anyone know what and when the next transfer will happen? Surely it can't be too far away as 5 156s need to be with Northern by the December TT change.

156418 & 156404 are due to be moved on 13/11, same as before, 418 to Newton Heath, 404 straight to ATC Crewe for repaint.

156419 is the last one due 27/11 straight to Newton Heath.

 

[BPN2022]

No.

Fair enough. Any idea when?

 

[LowLevel]

156418 & 156404 are due to be moved on 13/11, same as before, 418 to Newton Heath, 404 straight to ATC Crewe for repaint.

156419 is the last one due 27/11 straight to Newton Heath.

Good luck with 418 - it was a pain before it went to Wolverton and it's been even worse since it came back!

 

[BPN2022]

I see 156415 has lost its EMR colours, now in Northern livery. Has 156422 entered use yet?

 

[skyhigh]

I see 156415 has lost its EMR colours, now in Northern livery. Has 156422 entered use yet?

Not yet. I don't know when it will, sorry.

 

[diligentdave]

Not yet. I don't know when it will, sorry.

Released into traffic this morning so could possibly be out and about.

 

[Geeves]

422 was out this morning on that tiny Wigan and back 310 diagram so is back at NH now. Not sure if it comes out again later.

402 had some issues this morning and is also back on the shed now

 

[BPN2022]

How long will it take for 404/414 to be repainted at Crewe?

Interesting on 422, will keep an eye out for it.

 

[adc82140]

Is 401 still running in ex EMT colours?

 

[Geeves]

156422 is back on regular territory today about to form the 0832 Sheffield to Picc but is back to NH when it gets back again

 

[John C]

Is 401 still running in ex EMT colours?

401 is now in Northern livery, I want to say it was repainted early September.

 

[diligentdave]

How long will it take for 404/414 to be repainted at Crewe?

Interesting on 422, will keep an eye out for it.

Now that 414 has been repainted it has returned to NH for modifications and conversion exams, same as 422 had so will be stopped for few weeks. It takes 2 weeks to do a full repaint on the ex-EMR units.

 

[170UTD]

Paths in place for 156404 and 156418 to Crewe C.S and then 156418 to Newton Heath T.M.D.
Etches Park Sdgs to Crewe C.S: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K66164/2022-11-13/detailed
Crewe C.S to Newton Heath T.M.D: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K66165/2022-11-13/detailed

 

[The_Train]

Paths in place for 156404 and 156418 to Crewe C.S and then 156418 to Newton Heath T.M.D.
Etches Park Sdgs to Crewe C.S: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K66164/2022-11-13/detailed
Crewe C.S to Newton Heath T.M.D: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K66165/2022-11-13/detailed

These unit numbers confirmed as having moved?

 

[jonesy3001]

These unit numbers confirmed as having moved?

Seen going through Wolverhampton by a twitter user.

 

[fgwrich]

Seen going through Wolverhampton by a twitter user.

I did a double take when you said Wolverhampton, then I looked at RTT. Another unusual routing, though not as mad as some of the other ROG moves!

 

[The_Train]

Seen going through Wolverhampton by a twitter user.

That's just been pointed out to me and I even commented on it earlier today - just a little senior moment from me there

 

[AMD]

Good luck with 418 - it was a pain before it went to Wolverton and it's been even worse since it came back!

Worse than 422?
422 has just failed again (door fault), having failed about a week ago with a brakes problem.

 

[170UTD]

With the last 156 for the December TT change due to be moved on the 27th, are there any plans to send anymore very soon after that date? Especially as more 170s are coming over every week for a while and Etches Park and Nottingham Eastcroft are full?

 

[adrock1976]

My final remaining East Mids 156 (410) is on the Cleethorpes - Barton shuttle today, going by the RTT website.

I have looked at the remaining workings for today, and noticed that it runs empty to Lincoln Central (Platform 3 A or B). Looking at tomorrow, I cannot see anything departing either 3A or B, but the Skipton - London Kings Cross is using 3.

Does this mean that 156410 will be working its way back towards Nottingham during the course of tomorrow?

Last year before the 153s were retired (I got my final one - 308), I think it was mentioned in the 153 thread at the time that the Cleethorpes - Barton trains changed over on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Is this still the case today, or do they change over daily/once weekly?

 

[LowLevel]

My final remaining East Mids 156 (410) is on the Cleethorpes - Barton shuttle today, going by the RTT website.

I have looked at the remaining workings for today, and noticed that it runs empty to Lincoln Central (Platform 3 A or B). Looking at tomorrow, I cannot see anything departing either 3A or B, but the Skipton - London Kings Cross is using 3.

Does this mean that 156410 will be working its way back towards Nottingham during the course of tomorrow?

Last year before the 153s were retired (I got my final one - 308), I think it was mentioned in the 153 thread at the time that the Cleethorpes - Barton trains changed over on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Is this still the case today, or do they change over daily/once weekly?

There's no trains to Nottingham from Lincoln tomorrow as there's an engineering block so it'll either be stabled at Lincoln or be pottering around the area.