First West of England (Bristol, Bath & The West)

[Andyh82]

No one can use them in that livery as I've been told on Facebook.

If you’ve read it on Facebook it must be true…

 

[Callum15632]

What you've been told on Facebook is clearly rubbish. Operators can and do use buses in previous operators' liveries. There's no problem as long as any branding is removed beforehand.

By the way, if you are referring to Facebook or any other sources, forum rules require that you provide a link to and a relevant quote from that source.

Here is the proof.

 

[Mollman]

No one can copyright a bland allover yellow livery. All they could insist on is the removal of any logos etc. Don’t believe everything you read on FaceTube…..

You can trademark a colour so 'competitors' cannot use it, but I agree it would be ridiculous for TfGM to have done that.
https://www.businessinsider.com/colors-that-are-trademarked-2012-9

Trademarking a color simply allows a company to use a particular combination and shade of color in its own industry.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Hmmm.... is this really so important?

As well as a stipulation in the contract to run vehicles in the specific Bee Network yellow, there is also a stipulation to repaint them out of it on disposal/exiting Bee Network operations? Or it may be that First, being keen to create the right impression by repainting even short term members of the fleet into yellow, are equally keen not to run vehicles in yellow elsewhere and incur TfGM displeasure.

Whatever the reasoning, it seems rather ironic that First maintaining such standards when (in an alleged hiatus on painting prior to a new corporate scheme), there are frankly loads of vehicles running around in an array of incorrect colour schemes. First West of England has vehicles in the Aberdeen Urban 2 (albeit subtly amended for the 8), York Uni pink, Swansea or Southampton red, Bristol P&R green, as well as a number in various blue schemes though being in Bath, they actually fit in quite well. I'll add that I saw a couple of the ex Sheffield e400s in service on Fri/Sat still in urban 1. They looked fairly rough too!

Still, nothing compared to First Kernow...

 

[stait.john]

The 5 and 77 are actually booked single deck according to the running boards, so that’s 7 for LH.

I think personally that as long as the lettering and branding is removed from the bee network liveried buses, they should be ok to use, maybe it’s a case of interpretation of the rules?

John

 

[M803UYA]

If you’ve read it on Facebook it must be true…

Obviously. I read on facebook last week that the London Eye is being relocated to Scotland. It was on facebook, therefore it must be true.

 

[JD2168]

Hmmm.... is this really so important?

As well as a stipulation in the contract to run vehicles in the specific Bee Network yellow, there is also a stipulation to repaint them out of it on disposal/exiting Bee Network operations? Or it may be that First, being keen to create the right impression by repainting even short term members of the fleet into yellow, are equally keen not to run vehicles in yellow elsewhere and incur TfGM displeasure.

Whatever the reasoning, it seems rather ironic that First maintaining such standards when (in an alleged hiatus on painting prior to a new corporate scheme), there are frankly loads of vehicles running around in an array of incorrect colour schemes. First West of England has vehicles in the Aberdeen Urban 2 (albeit subtly amended for the 8), York Uni pink, Swansea or Southampton red, Bristol P&R green, as well as a number in various blue schemes though being in Bath, they actually fit in quite well. I'll add that I saw a couple of the ex Sheffield e400s in service on Fri/Sat still in urban 1. They looked fairly rough too!

Still, nothing compared to First Kernow...

The ex South Yorkshire Enviro 400’s look have looked messy since a number of overall adverts were removed, one was for Strongbow. Also Doncaster have removed the old FirstGroup website address off the side in a messy fashion.

 

[Stan Drews]

Obviously. I read on facebook last week that the London Eye is being relocated to Scotland. It was on facebook, therefore it must be true.

It is true, and it will become the Glasgow Aye!

 

[Callum15632]

The 5 and 77 are actually booked single deck according to the running boards, so that’s 7 for LH.

I think personally that as long as the lettering and branding is removed from the bee network liveried buses, they should be ok to use, maybe it’s a case of interpretation of the rules?

John

What will happen to the B9s that are used on there then and also will the 77 cope with single deckers?

 

[Citistar]

Seems an odd decision for the 77 which is supposed to be a strategic boost in capacity for two main corridors to be operated with single deck vehicles.

 

[kei.8532]

Seems an odd decision for the 77 which is supposed to be a strategic boost in capacity for two main corridors to be operated with single deck vehicles.

I would say the same for the 5 as well. It just got upgraded to double deckers and now it's going back to Streetlites again, how's it that helping the overcrowding problems on the 8

 

[Callum15632]

I would say the same for the 5 as well. It just got upgraded to double deckers and now it's going back to Streetlites again, how's it that helping the overcrowding problems on the 8

It still adds extra capacity along that section of route as it's an extra 2 buses an hour but when I see the 5 it usually isn't that busy. I saw it a couple times in the first week of operation but I'm not sure now. The 77 isn't that busy cause a single decker has been on the 77 a load of times since it started. That single decker being the only single decker in public service at Lawrence hill depot 47544 SN14 FFU.

 

[Marcus Fryer]

Not mentioned on here is that 39466 (YN20 CDO) has received a wrap celebrating 80 years since Bristol's first female bus driver.

 

[Callum15632]

I have just saw a picture of 47611 in press in the new corporate first colours. Is this bus for Bristol?