WizCastro197
Established Member
Okay
I have another question. I am not familiar with chartered trains at all but will the train only run if a sufficient amount of people book to ride? As to not making a huge loss?
-
Our booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk (powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!
Intercity Fridays Only to/from Euston
- Thread starter HST43277
- Start date
- Status
I have another question. I am not familiar with chartered trains at all but will the train only run if a sufficient amount of people book to ride? As to not making a huge loss?
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R
RailUK Forums
It's running for 3 more weeks; if there aren't a significant proportion of bookings during those 3 weeks, I suspect that would probably be the end of it.
And I decided yesterday that I'll go shopping in Manchester on Friday rather than London, oh well, I'm not going to change my mind again now! Thank you for the intelligence.
Bertie the bus
Established Member
- Joined
- 15 Aug 2014
- Messages
- 2,802
If the 87 doesn't attract them perhaps next week they could use some of the Scotrail livery Mk 3s. That would bound to be a winner.Clearly they don't think the service is attracting enough "normals"
D6130
Established Member
Perhaps you could go to Wilmslow station at 20 24 on Friday evening and ask the train manager if you could ride into Manchester on payment of a part fare? If he/she permits, it would be worth it, not only for 87 002, but also for the rare non-stop run through Stockport.
According to Intercity’s Twitter, part-fares are officially available, although they cannot be paid for in advance:
Looking at RTT it shows the service as set down only. How can they sell part fares if they aren’t allowed to pick up?
Someone has posted the fares, I'm unable to find them on this thread unless I've missed them.
Last edited:
That does not mean they are not allowed to pick up. It simply means not advertised / may leave early.
found it!
StephenHunter
Established Member
How busy is the train from people's experience?
Based on posts in this thread, hardly anyone was on the first train, which isn't surprising given the short notice and lack of publicity for it.
Kilmarnocklad
Member
- Joined
- 14 Aug 2011
- Messages
- 29
Does anyone know the numbers of the mk3 coaching stock which has formed the service?
Well, I can narrow it down it a bit.
From RailUK Forums a couple of years ago:
10416 FOB or whatever definitely ran last Friday.
Aeroplaneguy
New Member
Does anyone have any information on the amount of passengers today?
357
Established Member
- Joined
- 12 Nov 2018
- Messages
- 1,412
Certainly lots of enthusiasts around looking at Facebook. Not sure how many would have got tickets though...
gner43008
New Member
- Joined
- 16 Jul 2017
- Messages
- 4
Really enjoyed the run from Crewe to London Euston this afternoon with 87002.
Probably around 20-30 passengers on the train? Plenty of space for everyone, But I was expecting more.
Probably around 20-30 passengers on the train? Plenty of space for everyone, But I was expecting more.
LOL The Irony
On Moderation
I've gotten myself on the northbound all the way to Piccadilly on the 9th. Will report back on what it was like on it's currently final booked run.
Flange Squeal
Established Member
- Joined
- 17 Jul 2012
- Messages
- 1,294
Roger French, who writes the Busandtrainuser blog, says he was one of 33 passengers in his article about travelling on the up service yesterday.
A rival for troubled Avanti
Saturday 27th August 2022 Yesterday afternoon saw the second outing of an interloper’s new weekly appearance competing on the West Coast Main Line. The rail tour company Locomotive Services Ltd (tr…
busandtrainuser.com
Last edited:
Statto
Established Member
Roger French, who writes the Busandtrainuser blog, says he was one of 33 passengers in his article about travelling on the up service yesterday.
A rival for troubled Avanti
Saturday 27th August 2022 Yesterday afternoon saw the second outing of an interloper’s new weekly appearance competing on the West Coast Main Line. The rail tour company Locomotive Services Ltd (tr…
That blog is full of hot air, as dreadful as AWC are right now, how can a once a week service be a rival for AWC, LNWR are more rivals to AWC, & the LS service from Euston goes via Birmingham too rather than via the Trent Valle?
I travelled last night- the reports of 30 odd passengers to me seem about right. Of those a handful (stereotyping wildly here, I'm aware!) seemed not to be enthusiasts.
Plus points: very comfy seats, beautifully restored and very clean mk3s, friendly staff and tasty drinks at a reasonable price from the buffet car. Once aboard, we had regular updates on progress. For me as an enthusiast, it was a fantastic trip. However...
Negative points: the e-ticket went straight to my junk folder, and I had to go and dig it out. The email came with no clear confirmation of departure time or instructions on what to do when arriving at Euston, which I think a "normal" passenger would require. Fortunately on arrival at Euston, the departure boards prominently displayed "Charter Train"- it would've been helpful for a regular passenger if the ticket had made that clear.
Upon then making it over to platform 16, the train was sitting in the platform, lights on in most but not all of the carriages- this was about 40 minutes prior to departure. Again, as an enthusiast it was nice to wander up to take a look at the loco, then take some time to wander back onto the concourse for a Burger King, but I think a "normal" would have appreciated a welcome at the top of the ramp from the LSL staff.
I think this has the potential to be fantastic, but there are quite a few creases that need to be ironed out if this is going to be more than simply an enthusiasts' jolly that's presumably costing Hoskings thousands. Facebook advertising would probably help, and a more sustained media campaign?
A final and heartening comment: the group of enthusiasts on the platform ends at Euston I noticed had a good deal more ethnic diversity than I'm used to- which can only bode well for the future of our hobby.
Plus points: very comfy seats, beautifully restored and very clean mk3s, friendly staff and tasty drinks at a reasonable price from the buffet car. Once aboard, we had regular updates on progress. For me as an enthusiast, it was a fantastic trip. However...
Negative points: the e-ticket went straight to my junk folder, and I had to go and dig it out. The email came with no clear confirmation of departure time or instructions on what to do when arriving at Euston, which I think a "normal" passenger would require. Fortunately on arrival at Euston, the departure boards prominently displayed "Charter Train"- it would've been helpful for a regular passenger if the ticket had made that clear.
Upon then making it over to platform 16, the train was sitting in the platform, lights on in most but not all of the carriages- this was about 40 minutes prior to departure. Again, as an enthusiast it was nice to wander up to take a look at the loco, then take some time to wander back onto the concourse for a Burger King, but I think a "normal" would have appreciated a welcome at the top of the ramp from the LSL staff.
I think this has the potential to be fantastic, but there are quite a few creases that need to be ironed out if this is going to be more than simply an enthusiasts' jolly that's presumably costing Hoskings thousands. Facebook advertising would probably help, and a more sustained media campaign?
A final and heartening comment: the group of enthusiasts on the platform ends at Euston I noticed had a good deal more ethnic diversity than I'm used to- which can only bode well for the future of our hobby.
Bertie the bus
Established Member
- Joined
- 15 Aug 2014
- Messages
- 2,802
Unless they stick the 86 on, in which case passenger numbers could nudge 3 digits, I suspect last Friday was the highpoint in terms of passengers.
A shame there's no 81 or 85 then.
AlterEgo
Veteran Member
90002 confirmed for this Friday. No info on the week after yet!
TrainTrackJack
Member
Heard a lot about 86101 doing the 9th. Whether it will is yet to be seen.
fgwrich
Established Member
I can’t say I’m surprised that the 86 isn’t doing it this week - it has only just come back from roughly a year over in the Freightliner depot having bogie work completed, and hasn’t ran any mainline tests yet. Putting it out this Friday would be pushing it somewhat.
- Status