Progress on Avanti West Coast's 805/807s Hitachi AT300 sets

[800001]

Will these have standard premium or not?

No, first class in end carriage, then remaining standard.

 

[poffle]

Will these have standard premium or not?

No standard premium. Only standard and first.

Standard Premium is a way of using up excessive first class capacity on the Pendolinos which could not all be sold as first class.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

No, first class in end carriage, then remaining standard.

More than just one for 807s, surely?

 

[800001]

More than just one for 807s, surely?

My bad, half of one carriage, then the end carriage with the kitchen/galley

 

[AJDesiro]

My bad, half of one carriage, then the end carriage with the kitchen/galley

They've got a larger galley than the 805s too, so that they can give the Pendolino catering offer.

 

[800001]

807004 in full Avanti livery sat outside at Hitachi Merchant Park this afternoon.

 

[BigVern]

Will the 805s be cleared for Middlewich line diversions?

 

[Welshguy1048]

24/04/24 - BRAND NEW - Avanti West Coast Class 805 - 805008 - Crewe to Holyhead - Test Run

 

[pokemonsuper9]

Asked this on the TOPS requests earlier, but does anyone know which 805s were the double operating 5Q61 1231 Preston to Stoke-on-Trent.
Plain white livery, unfortunately the numbers were too small (And obscured by plants) for me to see.

 

[Watershed]

Asked this on the TOPS requests earlier, but does anyone know which 805s were the double operating 5Q61 1231 Preston to Stoke-on-Trent.
Plain white livery, unfortunately the numbers were too small (And obscured by plants) for me to see.
View attachment 157008

One of them was 805007.

 

[david.stannard]

One of them was 805007.

Saw them at Crewe and Wigan yesterday - the other one was 805006 (as you note, both white)

 

[childwallblues]

Seen at Stafford yesterday at Stafford on 1305 5Q70 London Euston to Edge Hill Depot. It stopped on the down fast for five minutes then left with its pantograph raised.

807002 was on 5Q55 0839 Oxley Car MD to Liverpool Lime Street and 5Q56 1134 return to Crewe today. I think that this is the first 807 to reach Liverpool.

 

[DaveyJones]

Asked this on the TOPS requests earlier, but does anyone know which 805s were the double operating 5Q61 1231 Preston to Stoke-on-Trent.
Plain white livery, unfortunately the numbers were too small (And obscured by plants) for me to see.
View attachment 157008

If its a white pair, it will always be 805006/805007 (the unsold pair Hitachi use for testing). The only unbranded unit Avanti has is 805002

 

[DRS66]

Hello, does anyone know when the Avanti class 805s and 807s will enter service?

 

[dk1]

Hello, does anyone know when the Avanti class 805s and 807s will enter service?

805s should be later this Spring or early Summer I think. The 807s are further behind.

 

[DRS66]

805s should be later this Spring or early Summer I think. The 807s are further behind.

Thank you very much!

 

[dk1]

Thank you very much!

You’re most welcome mate. As usual with these things target dates are likely to slip.

 

[freerk]

Saw one passing Milton Keynes today at 21:37. Only managed to get a few blurry photos because it was so quick and random, but was a nice bonus to my UK interrail trip

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Here are 805 009 at Euston on 15th April and 805 005 there on 29th April - in both instances in platform 10.

 

[childwallblues]

805005 was on the 1313 Euston-Edge Hill Depot yesterday.

 

[Meerkat]

Here are 805 009 at Euston on 15th April and 805 005 there on 29th April - in both instances in platform 10.

They really need yellow fronts if the dark blue front bit is that long. Very indistinct and undramatic.

 

[800001]

They really need yellow fronts if the dark blue front bit is that long. Very indistinct and undramatic.

Why do they need yellow? Are the 3 extremely bright lights on the front not noticeable enough?

 

[Meerkat]

Why do they need yellow? Are the 3 extremely bright lights on the front not noticeable enough?

I was thinking purely aesthetically

 

[Northerngirl]

Here are 805 009 at Euston on 15th April and 805 005 there on 29th April - in both instances in platform 10.

They really do look nice

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I was thinking purely aesthetically

In purely aesthetic terms, I quite like them as they are - much better visually than the 390s...

This is one of those things that's very subjective to an individual, though. If you showed 100 of us a picture of any particular train and asked what we thought of the appearance of it, you'd probably get 100 different answers.

 

[Meerkat]

In purely aesthetic terms, I quite like them as they are - much better visually than the 390s...

This is one of those things that's very subjective to an individual, though. If you showed 100 of us a picture of any particular train and asked what we thought of the appearance of it, you'd probably get 100 different answers.

Its just that livery - the dark blue goes too far back, kind of hiding the front. Surely if you have a fast looking train you want the livery to show off the pointy front?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Its just that livery - the dark blue goes too far back, kind of hiding the front. Surely if you have a fast looking train you want the livery to show off the pointy front?

Yes, they look short, stubby and cheap when parked alongside a Pendolino. The Pendolino definitely looks like the more long distance train alongside it. Not sure if that’s got anything to do with the livery though, or more the fact the passenger doors start so soon on the 805. Or the Metro style pocket doors.

 

[Class15]

Yes, they look short, stubby and cheap when parked alongside a Pendolino. The Pendolino definitely looks like the more long distance train alongside it. Not sure if that’s got anything to do with the livery though, or more the fact the passenger doors start so soon on the 805. Or the Metro style pocket doors.

They’re not cheap-looking at all in my opinion. They look so much better than a 390.

 

[HamworthyGoods]

Hello, does anyone know when the Avanti class 805s and 807s will enter service?

805s commence passenger traffic from the start of the June timetable, initially it’ll be a mixed fleet of 221s and 805s covering the current 221 diagrams.

 

[absolutelymilk]

805s commence passenger traffic from the start of the June timetable, initially it’ll be a mixed fleet of 221s and 805s covering the current 221 diagrams.

Great! Hopefully driver training for the 805s has started already?