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What TPE could look like by 2050
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The Planner
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It won't exist I expect.
swt_passenger
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This sort of new thread comes up regularly, but it’s usually best to include some of your own new ideas, otherwise it’s too open a question.
Here’s a couple of previous threads about TPE, but there are many more.
January 2023:
December 2023:
Here’s a couple of previous threads about TPE, but there are many more.
January 2023:
Future of TPE
In your ideal outcome, what would you like to see happen to TPE? It's been hinted by Huw Merriman today that the company could bevmerged with Northern; as far as I'm concerned that would be the best option, but how would that work in practice? And is that the best course to pursue?
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TPE Future Network
With TPE potentially ordering 29 new trains, what north trans pennine network be developed that purely operates with the 29 trains alone? For example: Liverpool - Newcastle Liverpool - York Manchester Airport - Hull Manchester Airport - Middlesbrough Manchester Piccadilly - Huddersfield...
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Can you elaborate as to who that would be useful for, and whether it would replace other services?
Would XC run to Cleethorpes instead of TP, or alternatively a three way switch of XC Reading to Hull, Northern Sheffield to Cleethorpes and TP Liverpool to Newcastle via Sheffield and Doncaster?
YorkRailFan
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Why not just run a Sheffield-Leeds-York-Newcastle-Edinburgh-Glasgow TPE service at that point?
Or just keep it with XC?
YorkRailFan
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Make it (Glasgow) more frequent and I agree.
Well by 2050 the TP Upgrade/electrification might be approaching completion. There will also be much speculation on these forums as to where the 185's might be redeployed
Bevan Price
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Agreed. Hopefully rail passenger services will be planned more logically, without artificial splits / boundaries and fragmentation devised by some DfT person or consultant.
brad465
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When climate change has flooded most of Britain TPE will be the largest operator in the UK 
Snow1964
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7th May 2024, DfT has published the new Transpennine contract, business commitments and train services
(long documents so not practical to quote)
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(long documents so not practical to quote)
TransPennine Express Railways 2023 OLR rail services contract
Services contract and ancillary legal documents for DfT OLR Holdings Limited and TransPennine Trains Limited.