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Trivia: Stations that don't sound like they're Spelt

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Swanny200

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Kent is the one with the soft G. It's already here on the thread, directly above. I hope I haven't missed some humour. :roll: :)

From somebody who lived there Jillingham is how the Kent town is pronounced and the nickname for their football team is The Jills it is just spelt with a G.
 
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ah you must be posh then
mmm - well we have to go back a number of years now - roughly 40 - but it used to be said in Redcar that people from Saltburn were the posh ones. Guilty!

Now that it's been raised, I do think that this could account for many of the optional pronunciations - the "everyday" version and the "posh" one. But clearly we used to pronounce the places like all of our friends and I'm sure if they had said Mask and Redcuh so would we - just as is the case these days with the language.

As a slight aside, we used to refer to Darlington as "Darlo" and I wonder if that's the origin of part of your nickname.
 

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From somebody who lived there Jillingham is how the Kent town is pronounced and the nickname for their football team is The Jills it is just spelt with a G.

A friend of my mother's is called Gill, with a 'G' (short for Gillian).
 

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Walsall occurred to me today as a station not pronounced as it's spelt (never mind the auto-announcements that say "Warsaw") - it's pronounced "WOR-sull".
 

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KAnother area of confusion (although not pronunciation based) Berwick .Berwick station, of course, is in Sussex whilst Berwick upon Tweed is in Northumberland

Actually, the latter at least (as I know where that is unlike the other!) is pronounced as "Berrwick" isn't it. Certainly, the W isn't prominent

Here in Leeds, there are two ways of pronouncing Horsforth (in the NW of the city, for those of you unfamiliar with the place). It's pronounced Horse forth (if one is posh) or 'Hosfuth" (if one is not:D).

'Ossfuth :P

A friend of my mother's is called Gill, with a 'G' (short for Gillian).

I knew someone who was Gillian, preferred Gilly and preferred it with a hard "G"
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Walsall occurred to me today as a station not pronounced as it's spelt (never mind the auto-announcements that say "Warsaw") - it's pronounced "WOR-sull".

I have always said "Wall-saul" pretty much
 

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There is a thread about a landslip at Slochd that is situated in the Highlands.....how should you pronounce that name with the correct vocal intonation ?

Put an 's' before 'loch' (NOT pronounced 'lock') then make it a past tense.

It may help if you get sloshed on one of the local malts first – that should help make it sound authentic.
 

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How do you say Theydon Bois tube station? You certainly don't say Chapel-en-le Frith 'Chapel on lur Freet' like you would in French.
 
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Actually, the latter at least (as I know where that is unlike the other!) is pronounced as "Berrwick" isn't it. Certainly, the W isn't prominent



'Ossfuth :P


I knew someone who was Gillian, preferred Gilly and preferred it with a hard "G"
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I have always said "Wall-saul" pretty much

Thanks for correcting me on that one:D Should have left out the H:D
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How would it be referred to by a resident of Alwoodley ?

Hahaha! I knew someone was going to ask me that ?? It'll be Horsforth of course. That's similar to Horse but without the `e`. If one is in Shadwell, Cookridge, Moortown, Roundhay the same applies.
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How do you say Theydon Bois tube station? You certainly don't say Chapel-en-le Frith 'Chapel on lur Freet' like you would in French.

Not knowing the area, I don't know the definitive answer. A native would do. I would guess Theydon "Bwarz" or "Boyes" - phonetically speaking? I'm willing to be corrected.
 
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Yeah, exactly - not sure why people are coming up with Welsh placenames on this thread. The Welsh language uses the Latin alphabet differently than the English language. Surprised no one's started suggesting stations in France yet...
 

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Walsall occurred to me today as a station not pronounced as it's spelt (never mind the auto-announcements that say "Warsaw") - it's pronounced "WOR-sull".

My home town!!

Slightly off-topic, as it doesn't have a train station with the name, the one I've always found confusing to explain to people is the pronuciation of Caldmore (an area just outside the centre of Walsall). Locals pronounce Caldmore "KARMA"
 

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I heard a (human, rather than automatic) announcement once refer to "Hall in the wood" rather than "Hall i'th' Wood", so don't go on thinking that one day, somewhere, there won't be a train set to call at "Chap-el uhn le Freeth" ;D :)
 

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Yeah, exactly - not sure why people are coming up with Welsh placenames on this thread. The Welsh language uses the Latin alphabet differently than the English language. Surprised no one's started suggesting stations in France yet...

There is a station not so very far from Ilkley, with a most un-Yorkshire-like name. I refer to Ben Rhydding.

How should the phoenetic inflections be correctly uttered when saying the second word of the name of this particular station ?
 

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Yeah, exactly - not sure why people are coming up with Welsh placenames on this thread. The Welsh language uses the Latin alphabet differently than the English language. Surprised no one's started suggesting stations in France yet...

Not sure what you're meant to do with Llantwit Major - English which is Llaniltud Fawr in Welsh. I'm waiting for the day I hear Llanishen or Llandaf on Valley lines pronounced with correct Ll sound instead of flat L.
 

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Yeah, exactly - not sure why people are coming up with Welsh placenames on this thread. The Welsh language uses the Latin alphabet differently than the English language. Surprised no one's started suggesting stations in France yet...

Actually there doesn't seem to be any geographical limitation; we could talk about Poland or Russia if we liked. Łódź anyone?
 
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mmm - well we have to go back a number of years now - roughly 40 - but it used to be said in Redcar that people from Saltburn were the posh ones. Guilty!

Now that it's been raised, I do think that this could account for many of the optional pronunciations - the "everyday" version and the "posh" one. But clearly we used to pronounce the places like all of our friends and I'm sure if they had said Mask and Redcuh so would we - just as is the case these days with the language.

As a slight aside, we used to refer to Darlington as "Darlo" and I wonder if that's the origin of part of your nickname.

it is - i used to live there! I also support the "mighty" Quakers!

Might have to change it to Shildon soon if the echo is correct :(
 

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Actually there doesn't seem to be any geographical limitation; we could talk about Poland or Russia if we liked. Łódź anyone?

Well, Łódź you believe it? Again, that's quite phonetic - just try mastering the glottal stops when ordering rød grød med fløde at Københavns Hovedbanegård...
 

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There is a station not so very far from Ilkley, with a most un-Yorkshire-like name. I refer to Ben Rhydding.

How should the phoenetic inflections be correctly uttered when saying the second word of the name of this particular station ?

Rid-in (with emphasis on the Rid and no pause between the two syllables)
 

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There is a station not so very far from Ilkley, with a most un-Yorkshire-like name. I refer to Ben Rhydding.

How should the phoenetic inflections be correctly uttered when saying the second word of the name of this particular station ?

That would be a hangover from when the local language was, what we now call, Welsh. The language was spoken in a large part of what is now the UK, from Cornwall (Kernow) to Scotland. The Cornish place names are nearly always obvious to a Welsh speaker except where they have been corrupted into ‘Cornlish’ e.g. Launceston which is a corruption of Llanstephan. Scottish examples abound such as, Strathclyde (Ystrad Clud); Aberfeldy and Aberdeen. In the south of England there are fairly obvious place names, including Dover, which is a corruption of Dwfr (water); Minehead (Mynydd); Coombe Batch (Cwm Bach). There is also, at least, one ‘Aber’ in Yorshire; Aberford.

As a Welsh speaker, it’s fun to travel into deepest England and spot a name, often corrupted, that has obviously come from the older language. My personal favourite is Bagwyllydiart ( a cluster of gates) in Herefordshire, which has survived unblemished.
 

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I know that for non welsh speakers Welsh ststion names can be a "bit" confusing! However even within Wales we have on the Central Wales line Dolau which in welsh pronunciation should be Dol-ai. Locally it is pronounced Dolly!!

Also Cathays in Cardiff is pronounced Catays.
 

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I'm surprised that there are over 200 posts in the thread and nobody's mentioned Machynlleth yet!

Which may or may not be pronounced mer hunk leff.

Cheers,

Barry
 
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