Football

[andrew bell]

I'd rather save ourselves though, Stoke can grind results if needs must but we're incapable of keeping a clean sheet. Really hoping it doesn't come down to Wigan on the last day but I fear for next season whether it's in the championship or the premier league.

The FA are talking out of their arses by saying "only a minimal amount of fans" use the train. It's blatently obvious to almost everyone this is a cash grab

In some better news Petrov is on the mend a year after being diagnosed with leukaemia.

I don't think you'll have anything to worry about next season, as long as Learner gets his money out and spend on strengthening the team. Lambert is a good manager and will do well.

The FA don't really care about the fans otherwise they would put the semi finals at a mid point for both teams and the final would be at 3pm. Also I did read that ticket prices are £45, £65, £85 & £115 hock:

Its also good to hear 'Stan' is getting better. Hopefully it won't be long until he appears again

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

This coming Saturday sees the full final league programme of matches in the Conference Premiership which will see which club obtains the automatic promotion place to League 2 and also the final relegation place to be decided.

So what "bright spark" decided that all these fixtures will have a 1715 kick-off time rather than a 1500 normal time. Normal supporters of these clubs would prefer not to have to wait that extra period of time...is this just yet another occasion where a television audience takes preference over supporters physically watching the games in the stadiums ?

 

[MidnightFlyer]

I'm certain we discussed this lately on here, and yes it is. I forget which is the televised fixture though. Even if it does need to be televised, wouldn't 1245 suffice? (I actually think 1245 is a better time to start on the last day of the season than 1500.)

Or perhaps it's been moved to accommodate the huge American audience the Conference National receives!
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Edit - Televised game is Mansfailed Town v Wrexham on Premier Sports.

 

[gnolife]

Well, the BSB North table makes for pleasant viewing tonight - It looks light Alty are going to make the play-offs, with 3 games remaining, BPA are 6 points behind, and with 4 games remaining, Harrogate are 7 games remaining. Alty also have a relatively easy run in now, with Droylsden and Hinckley (confirmed as finishing 21st and 22nd in the table respectively) still to play, and one game that's been postponed from October against FC Halifax Town, which should be an interesting one.
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I'm certain we discussed this lately on here, and yes it is. I forget which is the televised fixture though. Even if it does need to be televised, wouldn't 1245 suffice? (I actually think 1245 is a better time to start on the last day of the season than 1500.)

Or perhaps it's been moved to accommodate the huge American audience the Conference National receives!
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Edit - Televised game is Mansfailed Town v Wrexham on Premier Sports.

You consider the team that is top of the table going into the last game to be 'failed'

 

[Eagle]

Mansfield v Wrexham is being televised, and that's probably the biggest decider of the day.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

You consider the team that is top of the table going into the last game to be 'failed'

One does not simply assume I was talking about the football team

 

[Eagle]

I've just noticed that before that match Premier Sports is claiming to be broadcasting Fulham v Arsenal at 15.00... I thought Saturday 3pm games weren't allowed to be shown live? Certainly the PL website doesn't make any mention of that game being televised.

EDIT: Just noticed that it says "available in Ireland only".

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Or perhaps it's been moved to accommodate the huge American audience the Conference National receives!

I congratulate you on your perception to conjoin matters that have been expressed on both the "Football" thread and the thread that discussed that American TV audience for a British football match on another forum thread. Well done, young sir..

 

[balne-wonderer]

I agree - time they went down....

Whats happened with Crouch,Owen and Jones...barely a goal between them

Service is a lot to do with that although I think Owen is done.

Teams have got wise to Stoke's tactics and Pulis has proved to be very one dimensional.

 

[SS4]

I don't think you'll have anything to worry about next season, as long as Lerner gets his money out and spend on strengthening the team. Lambert is a good manager and will do well.

Its also good to hear 'Stan' is getting better. Hopefully it won't be long until he appears again

That's the big if though. I hope he gets his cash out because I can't see Lambert doing an O'Neill and breaking the bank on bench warmers.

Yeah, I hope we see Stan soon although he has been offered a coaching role if he can no longer play.

 

[WelshBluebird]

Well done.

Unfortunately a lot of promoted clubs feel they need to reward the players who got promotion with new contracts.

This is usually the last thing to do as the difference between the 2 divisions is massive.

For a Premier league club you need Premier league players and Cardiff will need to spend big or at least spend wisely as Swansea did.

Tell me about it! I know full well that the hard work hasn't even been started yet. But for me at least, having supported the club when we were near the bottom of Division 3 (as it was then, now League 2), us being in the Premiership is such a massive achievement. Even if we do go straight back down.

In terms of players, I think there are a few that we need to keep, but also a few that we need to let go. And sadly some of those we need to let go are players who I would love to be able to keep. The likes of Stephen McPhail, who have been wonderful servants to the club, but are just not good enough.

It's taken long enough for Cardiff to finally reach the Prem. Not something I ever managed with them on Premier Manager 64 - but then the aim there was more to get the manager in the PL and not the club...

Now to find out when they play Everton at home. I wouldn't mind being in either end; I'm not exactly against cheering on Cardiff, being my second/third team (depending on how I feel about Southend at any time and how amusing laughing at them is!).

To right it's been long enough. So many years of almost and nearly. I still feel like I am dreaming!

Can't wait till the fixtures come out. Indeed Everton is one fixture I'll be look forward to as Goodison park is on my list of stadiums I want to go to next season.

Cardiff should be my second team really having spent 3 years of my life in the city, however I developed a fondness for swansea, and enjoy watching Swans play. The premier league is in for a shock on South Wales derby day, dont think there is any other derby quite like Cardiff vs Swansea

Indeed. I cannot wait!

 

[familyguy99]

After they 1-0 win against Yeovil on Tues night Oldham only need one more points and they should be playing League One again next season, Oldham could lose all the remaining 3 matches and still be safe as Scunthorpe need to win both of that 2 remaining matches to avoid relegated start tomorrow against MK Dons.

Also notice Man Utd could be crown Premiership champion for 13th time on Monday night if they beat Aston Villa and Man City lose to Tottenham on Sunday.

 

[bb21]

Any chance that daddy allowed son to win that one, given that Yeovil had nothing to play for?

With this layer of special relationship in the background, there will always be doubters I reckon. Not that I think it likely. Johnson Jr has done a pretty decent job since taking over I think.

 

[familyguy99]

I see Carrick, Bale, Suarez, Van Persie, Hazard & Mata have been nominated for Professional Footballers' Association Player of the Year award, I think is between Bale and Suarez but I think Bale will win it this season.

As for Young Player of the Year award I think Aston Villa player Christian Benteke could win this one as he done quite well for Villa this season.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22216746
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Any chance that daddy allowed son to win that one, given that Yeovil had nothing to play for?

With this layer of special relationship in the background, there will always be doubters I reckon. Not that I think it likely. Johnson Jr has done a pretty decent job since taking over I think.

Well Yeovil did played poor against us on Tues u never know but Yeovil were still playing for something as if they beat us on Tues Night then they will be two points behide Bournemouth and still had chance of going up but know they would have to do it thought play off if they what to go up to Championship.

 

[ACE1888]

Charles Green 'steps down' as Chief Executive at Rangers FC today

 

[Ivo]

It looks like the Portsmouth saga - which has been running for a good few years now () - may at last be entering its final phase. But whilst said phase will end with the club in League Two, for only the club's third ever season at that level, it is at least good news otherwise.

BBC Article

Portsmouth are out of administration, with the club now officially owned by the Pompey Supporters' Trust (PST).

The club have been in administration since 17 February 2012 and were close to being liquidated over the 14 months.

But an out-of-court settlement between the former owners and administrators for ownership of Fratton Park meant a takeover could be completed.

The Football League must now decide when to deduct the club 10 points for officially exiting administration.

With Pompey already relegated from League One, the penalty could be held over until next season, however, PST chairman Ashley Brown believes the points will be deducted immediately.

In the time that Pompey have been in administration, every senior player has left the club.

For the club to exit administration, settlements had to be reached with secured creditors as well as former owners Portpin.

Potential buyers included former owner Sulaiman Al Fahim, disgraced former Watford owner Laurence Bassini and former head of failed investment bank Seymour Pearce.

But, as prospective owners came and went, the bid from the supporter-led consortium remained throughout.

Backed by several wealthy investors, including local businessman Iain McInnes, ordinary fans pledged £1000 each to be part of the Trust.

Together, they raised nearly £3m, which was added to by a £1.45m bridging loan, as well as investment from their property partner Stuart Robinson.

The Trust have now taken control of the club, along with Fratton Park and the land surrounding the ground.

 

[bb21]

If the FL dock them 10 points off this season's tally, then they are breaking their own rules. Not that it is any surprise... :roll:

Poor suffering Pompey fans, may tomorrow be brighter for them, but a 10-point handicap (or possibly more) next season may not be the best start they wish for. How many times have they been in administration? (Considering that Rotherham and us both got a 17-point penalty for being in administration twice, and Luton 20 points for being there three times, Pompey supporters may wish to hang on to their celebration party.)

 

[andrew bell]

If the FL dock them 10 points off this season's tally, then they are breaking their own rules. Not that it is any surprise... :roll:

Poor suffering Pompey fans, may tomorrow be brighter for them, but a 10-point handicap (or possibly more) next season may not be the best start they wish for. How many times have they been in administration? (Considering that Rotherham and us both got a 17-point penalty for being in administration twice, and Luton 20 points for being there three times, Pompey supporters may wish to hang on to their celebration party.)

The way I understand it is Portsmouth had to get out of administration before the season ends otherwise face expulsion from the football league and if they did manage to come out of administration the points would be taken off with immediate effect, regardless of where they are in the league.

I think the reason why Bournemouth and Rotherham were deducted 17 points was due to an agreement with the new owners and the football league , the agreement being get out of administration by Thursday before season start with a starting position of -17 or be expelled from the league.

 

[Mr Spock]

The way I understand it is Portsmouth had to get out of administration before the season ends otherwise face expulsion from the football league and if they did manage to come out of administration the points would be taken off with immediate effect, regardless of where they are in the league.

I think the reason why Bournemouth and Rotherham were deducted 17 points was due to an agreement with the new owners and the football league , the agreement being get out of administration by Thursday before season start with a starting position of -17 or be expelled from the league.

Portsmouth,s first administration was in the Premiership so apparently that does not count to the Football League so it should only be 10 points for a "first" time.

As it is so late in the season I thought the points deduction would carry over to the next one?

 

[Oswyntail]

Portsmouth,s first administration was in the Premiership so apparently that does not count to the Football League so it should only be 10 points for a "first" time.

As it is so late in the season I thought the points deduction would carry over to the next one?

Surely the FA are not making up rules on the hoof:roll:

 

[bb21]

Portsmouth,s first administration was in the Premiership so apparently that does not count to the Football League so it should only be 10 points for a "first" time.

As it is so late in the season I thought the points deduction would carry over to the next one?

Their first one was in December 1998.

Before anyone says that it was more than 10 years ago, it didn't stop the FL using it as an excuse against us in their decision to dock us 17, despite our first period of administration being 11 years prior.

 

[SS4]

Bugger. Sunderland won

 

[bb21]

10-point deduction to come off Pompey's tally this season. Now confirmed. Reason as explained by Radio Solent that they exited admin rather than entered admin while relegated. Lovely word play, isn't it? :roll:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22167294

Portsmouth out of administration and deducted 10 points

By Nabil Hassan

BBC Sport
Portsmouth's 10-point deduction will be imposed this season, after coming out of administration on Friday.

The club, now owned by the Pompey Supporters' Trust (PST) had been in administration since 17 February 2012 and were close to being liquidated.

But an out-of-court settlement between the former owners and administrators for ownership of Fratton Park allowed a takeover to be completed.

They had already been relegated from League One.

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I would love Pompey to do well, but FL double standards strike again. What is the point of all this? It is not a punishment.

 

[andrew bell]

10-point deduction to come off Pompey's tally this season. Now confirmed. Reason as explained by Radio Solent that they exited admin rather than entered admin while relegated. Lovely word play, isn't it? :roll:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22167294



I would love Pompey to do well, but FL double standards strike again. What is the point of all this? It is not a punishment.

Because the football league had stated exit administration and lose 10 points before the season is over or face expulsion. That was the agreement they had stated to Portsmouth and if they had changed their mind it would be double standards. I agree it is not a massive punishment for them as they were already relegated

 

[gnolife]

So, Alty have made the playoffs after the two teams that could catch them both dropped points, and Alty annihilated Hinckley (not like any other result was really expected). Hinckley now have the very impressive goal difference of -104

 

[familyguy99]

Oldham beat Crawley 2-1 mean Oldham are safe and will be playing League One football next season Scunthorpe won 1-0 against MK Dons and because Colchester could only draw 0-0 against Shrewsbury, it will mean Scunthorpe and Colchester will battle it out for that last relegated place.

I see Bournemouth will be going up if Brentford lost to Hartlepool in match which kick off at 5.20pm.

If and big if Aston Villa beat Man Utd on Monday night then QPR and Reading will both be relegated to Championship.

 

[richw]

Regarding Portsmouth points deduction by the FA rules should of been applied in Feb 2012, as the ruling states the points deduction should be applied when entering administration. At this point they were still in the championship and not relegated. Therefore I deem would of been unacceptable to deduct the points next season.
Portsmouth Fans day got even better. They have hammered Sheffield United today 3-0

 

[bb21]

Because the football league had stated exit administration and lose 10 points before the season is over or face expulsion. That was the agreement they had stated to Portsmouth and if they had changed their mind it would be double standards. I agree it is not a massive punishment for them as they were already relegated

Do the FL just make up rules as they go along? Wouldn't surprise me. Someone should have anticipated this eventuality. Quite clearly no one at the head of FL have a brain.

 

[Eagle]

I see Bournemouth will be going up if Brentford lost to Hartlepool in match which kick off at 5.20pm.

And any other result in Brentford v Hartlepool, Bournemouth will be going up unless they lose at Tranmere next week by six or more goals.

(Brentford play Doncaster next week, so they can't both overtake Bournemouth.)

 

[bb21]

One of my mate put a fiver on promotion the day Eddie was appointed, at 90-1 I believe, when we were in 21st place.

I told him he had lost his marbles. Now I have a very big slice of humble pie to spoon through when I see him next week.

No complaining.