Which drugs have you taken?

[Xenophon PCDGS]

So much easier to use terms like "weed" , "acid" etc.

That sounds like making reference to those about to leave the Infants stream to progress to the Juniors stream, with only four-letter words to be able to be read and written...

There are always weeds growing in the lanes near to us, but I have yet to see anyone surreptitiously removing them for certain nefarious purposes.

 

[Gutfright]

That sounds like making reference to those about to leave the Infants stream to progress to the Juniors stream, with only four-letter words to be able to be read and written...

Infants using four-letter words?

What the ****ing **** is this country coming to?

 

[ExRes]

What the ****ing **** is this country coming to?

You may well ask with three 12 year old girls seriously ill in hospital after taking ecstasy tablets

 

[DaleCooper]

Infants using four-letter words?

What the ****ing **** is this country coming to?

When I was that age we could only afford three letters and during the war words were rationed. Kids today don't know how lucky they are.
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You may well ask with three 12 year old girls seriously ill in hospital after taking ecstasy tablets

Thank goodness no child has ever been harmed by paracetamol, aspirin or alcohol.

 

[Harbornite]

When I was that age we could only afford three letters and during the war words were rationed. Kids today don't know how lucky they are.
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Thank goodness no child has ever been harmed by paracetamol, aspirin or alcohol.

Two wrongs don't make a right. At least paracetamol and aspirin are useful in certain circumstances.

 

[TheKnightWho]

Two wrongs don't make a right. At least paracetamol and aspirin are useful in certain circumstances.

Or alcohol?

 

[backontrack]

There are always weeds growing in the lanes near to us, but I have yet to see anyone surreptitiously removing them for certain nefarious purposes.

They do that all the time in Bollington.

 

[ExRes]

Or alcohol?

Alcohol is brilliant for cleaning paint brushes

 

[TheKnightWho]

Alcohol is brilliant for cleaning paint brushes

So just sell it denatured then - that's what they do for stuff not made for drinking.

So what about drinking alcohol?

 

[DaleCooper]

Two wrongs don't make a right. At least paracetamol and aspirin are useful in certain circumstances.

The point is you cannot base policy on isolated incidents no matter how tragic. It is also true that some illegal drugs can have beneficial effects.

 

[backontrack]

So what about drinking alcohol?

They do that all the time in Bollington.

 

[ExRes]

So what about drinking alcohol?

Not for me thanks, I stopped drinking in 1987

 

[DaleCooper]

So what about drinking alcohol?

Alcohol is so cheap now that I can't afford not to drink but I don't have a drink problem. I drink, get drunk, throw up, fall over and punch a policeman - no problem.

 

[Harbornite]

Or alcohol?

Alcohol isn't useful in any other ways apart from cleaning paintbrushes, but I obviously wouldn't ban it. My stance on the matter is that some illegal drugs like ecstasy should remain legal, whereas cannabis is a decent candidate for legalisation.
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The point is you cannot base policy on isolated incidents no matter how tragic. It is also true that some illegal drugs can have beneficial effects.

Ecsstasy should remain illegal, cannabis is a bit "better" and legalisation might be the right thing to do.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

They do that all the time in Bollington.

Thankfully, we live on the opposite and the far nicer side of the A523...

 

[muz379]

It's not merely speculation given we have considerable evidence from other countries that have done so. None of what you predict actually bears up to evidence.

So let me get this right . You think that legalising drugs is going to put the people who currently make a hefty profit selling drugs out of business

If that is the case why in the country that is often held up as a shining beacon of drugs policy do the authorities still regularly seize massive quantities of drugs from criminal gangs ?


I have no issue with many of the arguments that drugs being legal would make drug use safer for the users and would deal with many of the issues that society faces with criminalizing drugs use .As I have said as long as it is done in a way that negates any further cost to the taxpayer It would not bother me one bit . Also people committing offences to fund their drug habit should still be treated as criminals for the purposes of the crimes they have committed . However It is simply nonsense to suggest that drug dealers who currently enjoy a lucrative market are just going to shut up shop and go straight because drugs are legalised .

 

[AntoniC]

I am rather boring in that

1) Never smoked - my mum smoked like a chimney and having to kiss her good night as a kid was like kissing an ashtray so that put me off smoking !

2) Never done illegal drugs - couldnt see the point as any **** I was going through in life would still be there after the effects had worn off and

3) Used to drink alcohol (a lot !) up till 5 years ago when I got bored with it and gave up & dont miss it at all !.

As for illegal fags, HMRC and local councils do raids on suspected suppliers.

 

[mikeg]

Cannabis, once, but came to the conclusion very quickly it is a complete waste of time and completely overrated.

Codeine - Many times, with and without having a prescription (the latter I believe makes it class B)

 

[DarloRich]

Alcohol is so cheap now that I can't afford not to drink but I don't have a drink problem. I drink, get drunk, throw up, fall over and punch a policeman - no problem.

you shouldn't throw up in the street. It is dirty.

 

[DaleCooper]

you shouldn't throw up in the street. It is dirty.

I take it you have no objection to me punching a policeman.

 

[DarloRich]

I take it you have no objection to me punching a policeman.

none whatsoever. A good old fashioned British sport that goes well with binge drinking.

 

[Geezertronic]

From my point of view, Cannabis stinks worse than cigarettes and tends to linger more. I hate the smell of it. I don't personally know the difference between the stuff that people smoke and medical Cannabis but from my point of view, until the smell is sorted out it can stay restricted

 

[DaleCooper]

From my point of view, Cannabis stinks worse than cigarettes and tends to linger more. I hate the smell of it. I don't personally know the difference between the stuff that people smoke and medical Cannabis but from my point of view, until the smell is sorted out it can stay restricted

Cannabis doesn't have to be smoked, some people put in cakes or other cooked food. As for the smell, I rather like it.

 

[Flying_Turtle]

Okay well America are by all measures much harsher than us on drug crimes and yet it doesn't appear to be working over there either? Plus do you disagree with the Royal Society for Public Health who recently came out in favour? Then there was the government report that had to be doctored by politicians to give the 'correct' answer because it actually came back saying current policy didn't work and decriminalisation might be a better alternative?

And what about Portugal? They decriminalised and it seems to be me only positives have resulted to me.

They pretty much disappeared. A drug addict is considered a sick person so it must be treated and anyone in the possession of drugs for consumption must be evaluated by a committee to infer if they are addicts or just the recreational consumer.
You still answer for any other crime you comit

 

[St Rollox]

Notice the over 50s very clearly on that poll.
And the sheltered upbringings.

 

[DarloRich]

Notice the over 50s very clearly on that poll.
And the sheltered upbringings.

I am not over 50 and certainly haven't had a sheltered upbringing. I have seen, very closely, the effects drug addiction and dependency have on people, what they are driven to do to feed their needs and the fall out that has in families and communities.

I believe drugs are a scourge on our society and something we have to fight to eradicate rather than support and encourage. I understand that is terribly fogeyish and that the cool kids want drugs leagalised but I don't. Sorry.

 

[DaleCooper]

Notice the over 50s very clearly on that poll.
And the sheltered upbringings.

Do you think drugs were only invented in the 1980s? You might be surprised by what we got up to in the 60s and 70s.

 

[St Rollox]

Do you think drugs were only invented in the 1980s? You might be surprised by what we got up to in the 60s and 70s.

The drug of choice in my working class area of Glasgow was booze.
Noticeable Class A drugs arrived in the poorer areas at the same time as deindustrialisation and unemployment.
Funny that.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

none whatsoever. A good old fashioned British sport that goes well with binge drinking.

Perhaps my age betrays me, but I remember it was knocking policemen's hats off was as a sport practiced by those celebrating undergraduates.
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The drug of choice in my working class area of Glasgow was booze. Noticeable Class A drugs arrived in the poorer areas at the same time as deindustrialisation and unemployment.

Funny that.

Rab C Nesbitt in Govan would be the one to approach for queries on that matter.
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Do you think drugs were only invented in the 1980s? You might be surprised by what we got up to in the 60s and 70s.

What do you think it was that the British introduced into China in "the days of Empire" when Britain "ruled the waves". It was not fish and chips.

 

[DaleCooper]

What do you think it was that the British introduced into China in "the days of Empire" when Britain "ruled the waves". It was not fish and chips.

Laudanum was very popular in Victorian times, I believe it was a perfectly respectable cough medicine.