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scotland1977

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Hi can anybody tell me what it's like for a driver's shift of a daily basis?..I know everyday is a school day and it will be different ,it's just to get a proper insight into the drivers role.
Thanks in advance
 
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Yesterday I did 4 lots of empties (3 to the shed) with lots of sitting around in between. Today I'm non stop all day on passenger services with just over the bare minimum break.
 

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Wake up, curse the fact its 03:17.
Drink coffee.
Go to work.
Drink coffee.
Make more coffee.
Moan, drive train.
Pee, drink more coffee.
Drive train.
Moan.
Drink tea.
Drive train.
Moan you are not getting home early.
Tea.
Home.

Wash, rinse and repeat... ;)
 

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What is the day like for a freight driver? Do you have to go to the engine shed and drive to different yards?
I know at my local rail freight yard, drivers must stay with the train whilst its being unloaded by a grabber, moving it a few metres every 15 minutes or so then once empying is done, they wonder off for some lunch before driving the train back to terminal complex
 
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scott118

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Wake up, curse the fact its 03:17.
Drink coffee.
Go to work.
Drink coffee.
Make more coffee.
Moan, drive train.
Pee, drink more coffee.
Drive train.
Moan.
Drink tea.
Drive train.
Moan you are not getting home early.
Tea.
Home.

Wash, rinse and repeat... ;)

Is this protocol followed, when on RDW also?
 

scotland1977

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The edge ...I like my coffee so that sounds good
Hahahaha!!!..

Sorry I forgot to say it would be passenger trains on Scotrail ;)
 
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What is the day like for a freight driver? Do you have to go to the engine shed and drive to different yards?
I know at my local rail freight yard, drivers must stay with the train whilst its being unloaded by a grabber, moving it a few metres every 15 minutes or so then once empying is done, they wonder off for some lunch before driving the train back to terminal complex

Depends what the job is on freight as it is varied, but for infrastructure it usually involves:
- go to depot and book on
- prep loco
- couple to train (if not already done by shunter/shunt driver)
- drive train to worksite
- sit on worksite for 6+ hours moving a wagon length every quarter hour or so
- get relief and drive back to depot in work van

Driver who reliefs the train:
- go to depot and book on
- drive to worksite (spend 30minutes figuring out where the nearest access point it)
- relief driver on train
- sit on worksite for several hours making slight movements every now and then
- leave worksite and take train back to yard/depot
- dispose of loco
 
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Is this protocol followed, when on RDW also?

RDW :

Wake up, Curse the fact its 0317, additionally curse body clock.
turn back over
Wake up, curse the fact its 0500, sod it get out of bed, watch babestation.
Put on kettle, Make coffee, curse the fact I'm RD, empty coffee, switch to beer.
Watch daytime TV
Nip out to supermarket
Deliberately talk about work so as to not look unemployed
Playstation
If (Beer=n) and (work=Y) and (time=t) (n*abv/(y-t)) = can I squeeze in another beer
Check Diary
Curse the fact that I have to get up tomorrow at 0317
Check Diary
Set alarm
Check Alarm
Brush teeth, run bath
Check Alarm
Bath, Bed,
Check Alarm
Try to sleep
Check Alarm
Check Alarm
Wake up cursing the fact its 0317
 

EC123

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My day is along the lines of

- Wake Up
- Coffee
- drive/train to work.
- sign on, check notices, check where my train is, check if anyone is spare and wants to be nice and take my train.
- resound to the fact that the spare man is quite happy sitting spare, acquire a coffee, and head to train.
- Drive Train, making lots of noise on the horn
- Break (food. Lots of food)
- Drive Train, making lots of noise on the horn
- sign off. And go home
 

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RDW :
Watch daytime TV

Can you recommend any daytime TV programmes? When I can't get into work (I use Southern, so that is often the case), Babestation can become tedious. ;)

The forthcoming recommendation may help drivers when they are on a RD.
 

scotland1977

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Sounds a great job to get paid for what you guys do already ..;);)...

Babestation !!!!..lol...

So in a nutshell train drivers like their coffee!!
 

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Can you recommend any daytime TV programmes? When I can't get into work (I use Southern, so that is often the case), Babestation can become tedious. ;)

The forthcoming recommendation may help drivers when they are on a RD.

Its really odd switching the tellybox on at 0X00 in the morning. There is bugger all on. Mostly, as we are being serious, I have Hardtalk on as I'm catching a little bit of news before I go to work. Its hard to watch anything as you generally don't get up any more than you need to flip on the kettle and grab something on your way out the door.

Daytime TV :

I watch the Wright Stuff and as it finished around 1100 its perfect for an early start late shift. Personally I find daytime TV to be evil and brain sucking. TV has changed and it now more an on demand service. My routine for Telly is to record stuff that I can't watch when I'm working and watch it on my RD whilst ironing my uniform. Or, er, well, stream stuff off [redacted] Netflix.

Shift work can screw with your normal routines and any weekly TV show you may as well forget. Sky+, TiVO, Netflix, and other sources seem to be the mainstay of Drivers viewing habits.

Good Olympics this year :) I watch a few bits when I got in at 02XX in the morning.

Football is the worst. If your a football fan then avoiding the score can be a nightmare. Many crew rooms have Sky TV or some form of subscription telly so invariably the games are usually on. You catch snippets between PN's and you can often get to a BatnFlag station and be told the latest scores.

Babestation is only half serious. There really is nothing on at the extreme ends of the clock and when you watching the box for about 10 minutes while dressing and grabbing a cuppa then after flicking through from 101 > 500 > 600 > 700 > 800 you get to the naughty numbers.
 

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Its really odd switching the tellybox on at 0X00 in the morning. There is bugger all on. Mostly, as we are being serious, I have Hardtalk on as I'm catching a little bit of news before I go to work. Its hard to watch anything as you generally don't get up any more than you need to flip on the kettle and grab something on your way out the door.

I'm glad its not only me who is a semi-regular Hardtalk viewer. The rolling news on BBC1 seems to be the only thing on at 0300. As you say it goes well with coffee and throwing uniform on. :lol:
 
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Hardtalk a great, such deep conversation is so wrong and yet so right at 0300. The curse of morning spare when I've watched the same bits of news 6 times so you decide to watch some skanks getting evicted on 5*+24HD
 

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The best part of an early shift is creeping round the house at 3am like Spiderman so as not to wake the babies then the Mrs texting you at 4 when you book on saying they're awake and I was too loud again
 

scotland1977

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Johncleesefan hahaha we have all be there,I start at 3 o'clock with the current job I go to bed when am dayshift at 8pm...breaks the soul especially in the summer nights on a
Saturday night when your neighbours are enjoying a bbq...

What's the train driving role...
Is it a good job in a whole??
 

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RDW :

Wake up, Curse the fact its 0317, additionally curse body clock.
turn back over
Wake up, curse the fact its 0500, sod it get out of bed, watch babestation.
Put on kettle, Make coffee, curse the fact I'm RD, empty coffee, switch to beer.
Watch daytime TV
Nip out to supermarket
Deliberately talk about work so as to not look unemployed
Playstation
If (Beer=n) and (work=Y) and (time=t) (n*abv/(y-t)) = can I squeeze in another beer
Check Diary
Curse the fact that I have to get up tomorrow at 0317
Check Diary
Set alarm
Check Alarm
Brush teeth, run bath
Check Alarm
Bath, Bed,
Check Alarm
Try to sleep
Check Alarm
Check Alarm
Wake up cursing the fact its 0317

Fellow clockwatcher! :cry:
 

Johncleesefan

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Johncleesefan hahaha we have all be there,I start at 3 o'clock with the current job I go to bed when am dayshift at 8pm...breaks the soul especially in the summer nights on a
Saturday night when your neighbours are enjoying a bbq...

What's the train driving role...
Is it a good job in a whole??

Best job I ever had. Best part is booking off and knowing you're done for the day. Lots to remember but soon as you do its just a case of maintaining your knowledge/competence and making sure you concentrate and stay vigilant throughout your shift (and know the parts of your routes you can relax a bit too, very important Ying yang)
 

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At my commuter TOC, we work weekly shift patterns alternating between earlies and lates. Earlies typically book on between 0400 and 0900 working through until afternoon, lates start mid afternoon and work through to after midnight.

Shifts average 35 hours over 4 days per week, so average shift length is 8.75 hours. They may range from 5.5 hours to 9.25 hours.

A typical day would be as follows:

Arrive at the depot in good time, collect your schedule and book on for your shift in full uniform, carrying all necessary equipment and free from drugs/alcohol. Book on is usually around 20 mins before your first movement to allow walking time.

After booking on, catch up with colleagues and check notice cases - late notice case in particular gives you information about ESRs/low adhesion conditions.

You would then go to your train - you may be required to relieve the driver of a train already in service (give the driver your key, jump in and DSD test) or you may be required to prep a stabled train and take it out of the sidings into service. This would involve checking emergency equipment in all cabs on the unit, full brake test, set up radio and sending a "TRTS" to the signaller when you're ready so that you can be given the road by the signaller.

You may be required to travel by cab to a remote location and then take a train into service from there. All of this is indicated in your schedule.

You will then drive all services indicated in your schedule - paying particular attention to stopping patterns to avoid failing to call or making unscheduled stops.

Around half way through your shift you will get a PNB break. In practice the break is not always exactly half way through and you may end up doing the majority of driving either before/after the break. The break will always be at a location with a crew room with microwave and hot water available. Another chance to catch up with colleagues, reading or whatever takes your fancy.

At the end of your shift you key off and are free to go home. No requirement to go back to your depot if your shift finishes at a remote location, although your schedule will always give you a means of returning to your depot by passing on a train, cab or whatever.

The shift work is definitely the hardest part of the job, you are working at the extreme ends of the day and have to be as alert at 0400 one week as you do at 0130 the following week after hours of driving. Of course the time off and salary goes some way to compensate for this.
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Johncleesefan hahaha we have all be there,I start at 3 o'clock with the current job I go to bed when am dayshift at 8pm...breaks the soul especially in the summer nights on a
Saturday night when your neighbours are enjoying a bbq...

What's the train driving role...
Is it a good job in a whole??

Whether it's a good job depends on what you want out of a job really. If you struggle with your own company, don't like early starts, late finishes and irregular shift work then definitely not.

If you want a way out of office politics, decent pay, enjoy your own company and crave an existence away from the usual drab, tedious, office-based, hamster-wheel, brown-nosing schlep which so many "normal" jobs are these days, even professional jobs, I reckon it's a good option. If you like trains (not a pre-requisite, many in the industry actually don't) so much the better! :D
 
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Is there an allowance for overtime? Can you swap shifts with another driver? And finally are you doing the same route day and day out?

Thanks in advance
 

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Is there an allowance for overtime? Can you swap shifts with another driver? And finally are you doing the same route day and day out?

Thanks in advance

Overtime is paid at enhanced rates, depending on times/BH's etc. Swapping shifts, either daily or weekly is accepted, providing it is submitted, through the correct channels/paperwork. Routes, however many you sign, will be diagrammed so that you work a train, at the very least, over them, every 6 months, to retain competency.
 

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Is there an allowance for overtime? Can you swap shifts with another driver? And finally are you doing the same route day and day out?

Thanks in advance

Overtime is available on tap. Book-on fee of £45 and £25/hour for the shift worked. Works out around £250 - £300 per day depending on shift. Best advice on this forum and from drivers at my TOC is DO NOT DO IT for at least the first few months after getting your key, due to fatigue and risk of incidents.

Shift swaps are certainly possible. More difficult around school holidays, half term etc for obvious reasons.

Routes signed will depend on TOC, and can vary hugely within a TOC depending on depot.
 
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RDW :

Wake up, Curse the fact its 0317, additionally curse body clock.
turn back over
Wake up, curse the fact its 0500, sod it get out of bed, watch babestation.
Put on kettle, Make coffee, curse the fact I'm RD, empty coffee, switch to beer.
Watch daytime TV
Nip out to supermarket
Deliberately talk about work so as to not look unemployed
Playstation
If (Beer=n) and (work=Y) and (time=t) (n*abv/(y-t)) = can I squeeze in another beer
Check Diary
Curse the fact that I have to get up tomorrow at 0317
Check Diary
Set alarm
Check Alarm
Brush teeth, run bath
Check Alarm
Bath, Bed,
Check Alarm
Try to sleep
Check Alarm
Check Alarm
Wake up cursing the fact its 0317

Glad I'm not the only one who feels the need to prove I'm not unemployed when I'm not in work between 9 and 5 during the week.
 

scott118

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Glad I'm not the only one who feels the need to prove I'm not unemployed when I'm not in work between 9 and 5 during the week.

Why don't you guys simply wear your uniform? It'll save wearing out your own clothes, and the need to explain to others, that you are infact, employed..
 

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Why don't you guys simply wear your uniform? It'll save wearing out your own clothes, and the need to explain to others, that you are infact, employed..

If you saw mine, you'd know why.

I only dress like that when I'm being paid to. :oops:
 

scotland1977

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At my commuter TOC, we work weekly shift patterns alternating between earlies and lates. Earlies typically book on between 0400 and 0900 working through until afternoon, lates start mid afternoon and work through to after midnight.

Shifts average 35 hours over 4 days per week, so average shift length is 8.75 hours. They may range from 5.5 hours to 9.25 hours.

A typical day would be as follows:

Arrive at the depot in good time, collect your schedule and book on for your shift in full uniform, carrying all necessary equipment and free from drugs/alcohol. Book on is usually around 20 mins before your first movement to allow walking time.

After booking on, catch up with colleagues and check notice cases - late notice case in particular gives you information about ESRs/low adhesion conditions.

You would then go to your train - you may be required to relieve the driver of a train already in service (give the driver your key, jump in and DSD test) or you may be required to prep a stabled train and take it out of the sidings into service. This would involve checking emergency equipment in all cabs on the unit, full brake test, set up radio and sending a "TRTS" to the signaller when you're ready so that you can be given the road by the signaller.

You may be required to travel by cab to a remote location and then take a train into service from there. All of this is indicated in your schedule.

You will then drive all services indicated in your schedule - paying particular attention to stopping patterns to avoid failing to call or making unscheduled stops.

Around half way through your shift you will get a PNB break. In practice the break is not always exactly half way through and you may end up doing the majority of driving either before/after the break. The break will always be at a location with a crew room with microwave and hot water available. Another chance to catch up with colleagues, reading or whatever takes your fancy.

At the end of your shift you key off and are free to go home. No requirement to go back to your depot if your shift finishes at a remote location, although your schedule will always give you a means of returning to your depot by passing on a train, cab or whatever.

The shift work is definitely the hardest part of the job, you are working at the extreme ends of the day and have to be as alert at 0400 one week as you do at 0130 the following week after hours of driving. Of course the time off and salary goes some way to compensate for this.
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Whether it's a good job depends on what you want out of a job really. If you struggle with your own company, don't like early starts, late finishes and irregular shift work then definitely not.

If you want a way out of office politics, decent pay, enjoy your own company and crave an existence away from the usual drab, tedious, office-based, hamster-wheel, brown-nosing schlep which so many "normal" jobs are these days, even professional jobs, I reckon it's a good option. If you like trains (not a pre-requisite, many in the industry actually don't) so much the better! :D

Thanks bud
 

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Wake up, curse the fact its 03:17.
Drink coffee.
Go to work.
Drink coffee.
Make more coffee.
Moan, drive train.
Pee, drink more coffee.
Drive train.
Moan.
Drink tea.
Drive train.
Moan you are not getting home early.
Tea.
Home.

Wash, rinse and repeat... ;)

I'm sure you've missed out a few moans from that list! :p
 
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