Agreed - A skywalk is something like this over the Grand Canyon: https://youtu.be/3LdJ0gpFOQE
I think it's a case of Bolton Council getting ideas above their station (sorry)
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Agreed - A skywalk is something like this over the Grand Canyon: https://youtu.be/3LdJ0gpFOQE
I think it's a case of Bolton Council getting ideas above their station (sorry)
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SodTheDrummer
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Yes, very good coffee there. Although I assumed that unit would go when the bridge thing was installed? Hopefully not though.. Sometimes forget it's there when in a rush to pick up tickets get through barriers, onto platform etc. Would be nice to have something decent on platform level.
100% agree about WHS.
I always assumed that the purpose of the hugely expensive Palisade fencing was to keep the public away from the tracks. However this seems to be a daft waste of money if you still leave unmanned pedestrian crossings.
edwin_m
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Perhaps they are hoping Luke Skywalker will open it?
Joseph_Locke
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All of which will be closed and replaced with (at time of writing) footbridges.
Palisade, in the kind of quantities the railway gets through it, is relatively cost effective, given the barrier class requirements.
Joseph_Locke
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.Sorry to get into pedestrianantics, but Boltonians would queue in their thousands to complain about the lack of a roof and to throw shopping trolleys, mattresses and each other onto the tracks beneath.
SodTheDrummer
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Surely not!
Perhaps someone from Asons could perform the ceremony, Cliff already bunged them £300k as down payment... (allegedly)
SodTheDrummer
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Totally agree, I never suggested it should be open, but a footbridge with a roof, or fully enclosed footbridge is just that. A 'skywalk' suggests something far grander with a special view, not Bolton.
Having read all the complaints about the name of the new station footbridge/skybridge/skywalk, can I just make the point that what matters is not the name, but its function. To be able to walk the short distance from bus to train on a covered route will be far better than the trek from Moor Lane bus station to the railway station in all weathers, which is what I have to do now.
Come on lads, if this is all you have to worry about then, besides railways, you need at least one more hobby/interest to keep your minds occupied.
Nuff said, I'll shut up now on this topic.
Come on lads, if this is all you have to worry about then, besides railways, you need at least one more hobby/interest to keep your minds occupied.
Nuff said, I'll shut up now on this topic.
Elecman
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Looks like the Fleetwood branch junction at Poulton has been plain lined this weekend
Elecman
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Press release - parapet raising
https://www.networkrail.co.uk/feeds...ght-bridge-work-as-railway-upgrade-continues/
https://www.networkrail.co.uk/feeds...ght-bridge-work-as-railway-upgrade-continues/
Thank you for explaining.
I had better tell Harrogate Council as the bridge from the Victoria Shopping Centre to the Victoria multi-storey car park over Station Parade and the railway is a skybridge then and not just any old bridge as they refer to it.
LNW-GW Joint
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Masts and bases continue to multiply on the Salford-Euxton line.
There are 7/4 masts (Up/Down) between Horwich and Blackrod, and 29/31 between Lostock and Horwich.
Base numbers between Bolton and Farnworth are now 29/30.
The first bases are now appearing between Agecroft and Farnworth, including several near Kearsley and Clifton stations.
More new bases Agecroft-Salford Cres (24/22) including some down the Atherton line.
Also signs of new piles east of Salford Cres, seemingly replacing the previous concrete ones.
There are also some metal fixings on the walls of the cutting approaching Chorley tunnel.
All in all lots of progress.
There are 7/4 masts (Up/Down) between Horwich and Blackrod, and 29/31 between Lostock and Horwich.
Base numbers between Bolton and Farnworth are now 29/30.
The first bases are now appearing between Agecroft and Farnworth, including several near Kearsley and Clifton stations.
More new bases Agecroft-Salford Cres (24/22) including some down the Atherton line.
Also signs of new piles east of Salford Cres, seemingly replacing the previous concrete ones.
There are also some metal fixings on the walls of the cutting approaching Chorley tunnel.
All in all lots of progress.
LDECRexile
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Yo!!
I'm especially pleased that piles have started to appear between Farnworth tunnel and Agecroft, which Orangemen have told me is the trickiest area.
GRALISTAIR
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Why - area geology-old mine shafts etc?
LDECRexile
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They didn't expand on it I'm afraid. It was months ago, the men in question were undertaking preliminary studies as part of the design process. They carried clipboards and had clean orangewear.
I took the subsequent lack of visible action south of Farnworth to follow from this; pure conjecture on my part, of course.
It is, of course, fairly tricky to install piles & masts with only a clipboard.
LDECRexile
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It is, of course, fairly tricky to install piles & masts with only a clipboard.
Yes, come to think of it, they looked pretty harassed.
PDG1949
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It is, of course, fairly tricky to install piles & masts with only a clipboard.
Maybe their plans had been undermined....?
WatcherZero
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In Britain a lot of mine shafts can be hundreds of years old and so not appear on any maps or documents. So when your working in an area known to have been extensively mined in the past you assume there is something there until proven otherwise.
For example this is the map of suspected mineworkings in Bolton.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...6_Bolton_District_B__Development_Risk_Map.pdf
and known workings
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...2016_Bolton_District_B__Specific_Risk_Map.pdf
Salford
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa..._Salford_District_B__Development_Risk_Map.pdf
Wigan
Suspected
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...16_Wigan_District_B__Development_Risk_Map.pdf
Known
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa.../2016_Wigan_District_B__Specific_Risk_Map.pdf
Manchester
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...nchester_District_B__Development_Risk_Map.pdf
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PDG1949
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I have just been to the Network Rail meeting at Lostock and spoken to someone from Carillion. He gave me the following information.
Piling starts at Lostock in the next week or two, steelwork is about two months off.
They have started piling at Clifton this week.
Steelwork has been started near Orlando bridge for the Platform 5 track.
The down loop removal starts next week (week 52) and continues up to week 4.
The up loop removal starts on week 20.
A time delay camera is being set up at Bolton Station to record progress.
I will blow the dust off the camera and have a look round tomorrow.
Piling starts at Lostock in the next week or two, steelwork is about two months off.
They have started piling at Clifton this week.
Steelwork has been started near Orlando bridge for the Platform 5 track.
The down loop removal starts next week (week 52) and continues up to week 4.
The up loop removal starts on week 20.
A time delay camera is being set up at Bolton Station to record progress.
I will blow the dust off the camera and have a look round tomorrow.
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LDECRexile
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Just passed Blackrod on my way home from work, the access point there was busy with equipment getting onto the tracks, glimsed a truck carrying steelwork in the rain, work defo moving apace now, got to hand it to the Orange Army at night in all weather
Am i right in thinking once all the bases are in and the steelwork up they will then start on the stations for bases and steelwork, the only place I've seen one single lone base on a station is at Adlington the rest are bare.
Am i right in thinking once all the bases are in and the steelwork up they will then start on the stations for bases and steelwork, the only place I've seen one single lone base on a station is at Adlington the rest are bare.
Shaw S Hunter
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The trouble with that bridge is it's a hybrid. The upper level connecting to the shops may be enclosed but the lower level which serves as the station footbridge is not and can be as unpleasant as any other footbridge in the rain. [/OT]
LNW-GW Joint
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I think you'll find a couple of bases lurking behind the platforms at Buckshaw Parkway.
Hard to see from a train.
I did wonder if any had gone in at Chorley during the rebuild.
At Roby on Phase 2 they installed a couple of bases in the new platforms and then tarmaced over them until the time came for masts!
LDECRexile
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Just passed Blackrod on my way home from work, the access point there was busy with equipment getting onto the tracks, glimsed a truck carrying steelwork in the rain, work defo moving apace now, got to hand it to the Orange Army at night in all weather
Am i right in thinking once all the bases are in and the steelwork up they will then start on the stations for bases and steelwork, the only place I've seen one single lone base on a station is at Adlington the rest are bare.
There are three stations with one or more bases in place - Adlington, Moses Gate and Salford Central.
If Liverpool-Manchester is anything to go by there will be no such thing as an approach for stations as such, each will be treated as a site on merit. Adlington had its base installed very early in the programme. At Roby station a base was installed in one platform very early in the electrification process. The station was then completely remodelled and the base was buried under tarmac. After some time this base was unearthed and a mast wanged on top.
At Moses Gate the lone base (so far) is behind the southbound platform.
At Bolton we have ample evidence of pegged scrapes, but no bases as such.
In conclusion, stations aren't treated as a batch, but in and among the overall process.
Excellent was just thinking as you do, just nipped down to see if anything had been done around Blackrod last night but nothing new, did see a handful of NR surveyors with laser equipment measuring and marking at the edge of platforms and onto trackside.
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