[Trivia] Stations named "X for Y" or have 2-for-the-price-of-1 names

[Springs Branch]

Prompted by this thread and browsing through an old LMR timetable book, it struck me how often, compared to today, station names used to take the form "Somewhere for Somewhere Else", or two settlement names were used.

For example Parbold used to be Parbold for Newburgh and today's Farnworth was Farnworth & Halshaw Moor.
(I can't even find Halshaw Moor on the Ordnance Survey map, although the station seems handy for the district of Nob End, so maybe that should have been used instead)

A cursory scan of BR's London Midland Region route map for 1970 shows the following stations in the North West whose names have been "rationalised" today:-

- Ashburys for Belle Vue
- Bryn for Ashton-in-Makerfield
- Irlam for Cadishead
- Mauldeth Road for Withington
- Parbold for Newburgh
- Altrincham & Bowdon
- Bebington & Ferry New
- Cressington & Grassendale
- Farnworth & Halshaw Moor
- Gorton & Openshaw
- Knott Mill & Deansgate
- Moorside & Wardley
And a combination of both approaches in Allerton for Garston & Woolton (shortened to Allerton, then morphed into Liverpool South Parkway)

Examples further afield: just south of Watford was Bushey & Oxheys, and on the line between Shrewsbury and Hereford was Craven Arms & Stokesay.

There must be loads more around the country. Can you list some examples? Was this style mainly an LMS thing?

Some arbitary guidelines:-

• Only stations which are still open today.
• Truncation of names following closure of multiple stations in a town does not count (so Bolton Trinity St, Walkden High Level, Hindley North & Stockport Edgeley not valid examples)

 

[RailAleFan]

From the current Darwin reference data; X for Y

+--------------------------+
| Ashchurch for Tewkesbury |
| Greenhithe for Bluewater |
| Newton for Hyde          |
| Ravenglass for Eskdale   |
| Sankey for Penketh       |
+--------------------------+

And everything with an "&" in it for reference (not necessarily two distinct places of course)...

+-------------------------------+
| Abergele & Pensarn            |
| Ansdell & Fairhaven           |
| Arrochar & Tarbet             |
| Ashwell & Morden              |
| Bat & Ball                    |
| Blundellsands & Crosby        |
| Borough Green & Wrotham       |
| Boxhill & Westhumble          |
| Byfleet & New Haw             |
| Caledonian Rd & Barnsbury     |
| Cam & Dursley                 |
| Chalfont & Latimer            |
| Chappel & Wakes Colne         |
| Chestfield & Swalecliffe      |
| Church & Oswaldtwistle        |
| Cobham & Stoke d'Abernon      |
| Digby & Sowton                |
| Dunkeld & Birnam              |
| Elephant & Castle             |
| Elstree & Borehamwood         |
| Elton & Orston                |
| Energlyn & Churchill Park     |
| Finchley Road & Frognal       |
| Fishguard & Goodwick          |
| Goring & Streatley            |
| Haddenham & Thame Parkway     |
| Harrow & Wealdstone           |
| Hatfield & Stainforth         |
| Hayes & Harlington            |
| Highbridge & Burnham          |
| Highbury & Islington          |
| Hoveton & Wroxham             |
| Ince & Elton                  |
| Kirkham & Wesham              |
| Lazonby & Kirkoswald          |
| Lisvane & Thornhill           |
| Mottisfont & Dunbridge        |
| Nailsea & Backwell            |
| Pembrey & Burry Port          |
| Pevensey & Westham            |
| Pontypool & New Inn           |
| Portsmouth & Southsea         |
| Possilpark & Parkhouse        |
| Priesthill & Darnley          |
| Ramsgreave & Wilpshire        |
| Risca & Pontymister           |
| Sandal & Agbrigg              |
| Sandwell & Dudley             |
| Seaforth & Litherland         |
| Shaw & Crompton               |
| Stanlow & Thornton            |
| Steeton & Silsden             |
| Sudbury & Harrow Road         |
| Tutbury & Hatton              |
| Windsor & Eton Central        |
| Windsor & Eton Riverside      |
+-------------------------------+

 

[toot toot]

Glenrothes with thornton

 

[stut]

Harwich for the Continent
Frinton for the Incontinent?

 

[AlterEgo]

Alnmouth for Alnwick?

 

[CentralTrainer]

The ampersand is a pain in the arse for those of us using other travel systems that take the Trainline Booking Engine - it always throws out any query due to it.

 

[Mag_seven]

West Drayton used to be called "West Drayton and Yiewsley".

 

[eastdyke]

Some that have been 'truncated' from the 'east':

Gidea Park & Squirrels Heath
Brentwood & Warley
Shenfield & Hutton (always sounded to me like a firm of solicitors or a TV prog.)

Clacton-on-Sea & Holland-on-Sea
Braintree & Bocking
Scunthorpe & Frodingham

 

[Sprinter153]

Alfreton was of course previously Alfreton and Mansfield Parkway, if that counts.

And for a double whammy before that it was Alfreton and South Normanton.

On the North Downs, Gomshall was previously Gomshall and Shere, and previously Chilworth and Albury.

 

[Altnabreac]

Possilpark & Parkhouse is an interesting one in that it is a reversal of this trend. The original 1870 station was just called Possilpark and closed in 1917.

When the line reopened in 1993 it was given the longer name of Possilpark & Parkhouse.

 

[Johncleesefan]

Nailsea and Backwell
Highbridge and burnham

 

[greaterwest]

Pokesdown for Boscombe.

 

[urbophile]

I think Aigburth used to be Mersey Road and Aigburth.

 

[nlogax]

Pokesdown for Boscombe.

That's one from my youth though back then it was plain old Pokesdown. When was the 'for Boscombe' added?

 

[Norb]

Cark and Cartmel

 

[greaterwest]

That's one from my youth though back then it was plain old Pokesdown. When was the 'for Boscombe' added?

Not 100% sure, the automated announcements said "Pokesdown" until around 2010 or so when it became "Pokesdown for Boscombe"

I think some timetables still show it as "Pokesdown" which may be why RAFTemp missed it in his post, if he really was using data directly from TRUST/Darwin.

 

[Lemmy99uk]

Sandwell and Dudley was previously Oldbury and Bromford Lane, so it managed four places in its name!

 

[RailAleFan]

Not 100% sure, the automated announcements said "Pokesdown" until around 2010 or so when it became "Pokesdown for Boscombe"

I think some timetables still show it as "Pokesdown" which may be why RAFTemp missed it in his post, if he really was using data directly from TRUST/Darwin.

Query was against the reference files available over FTP as part of the open data Darwin Push Port ( http://nrodwiki.rockshore.net/index.php/Darwin:Push_Port )

+------+---------+-----+-----------+
| id   | tpl     | crs | locname   |
+------+---------+-----+-----------+
| 1973 | POKSDWN | POK | Pokesdown |
+------+---------+-----+-----------+

...which generally tallies with NRE...

http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/ldbboard/dep/POK

 

[hassaanhc]

What about Seer Green, which in some places is written as Seer Green and Jordans?

Hanwell still has old signs showing Hanwell & Elthorne.

And I seem to have this memory from a few years ago of Sutton Parkway being announced at Nottingham as Sutton-in-Ashfield Parkway.

 

[mallard]

Was this style mainly an LMS thing

Wasn't it more a Beeching-era thing? Pretend that "Y" hasn't actually lost its rail service by renaming the nearby "X" station to "X for Y"...

 

[DynamicSpirit]

Prompted by this thread and browsing through an old LMR timetable book, it struck me how often, compared to today, station names used to take the form "Somewhere for Somewhere Else", or two settlement names were used.

Worth perhaps pointing out that it hasn't all gone the one way. I'm sure, for example, that Oxenholme - the Lake District used to just be called Oxenholme, while Penrith - North Lakes used to just be Penrith. And then there's Ashhurst (New Forest), which IIRC used to just be Lyndhurst Road

 

[adrock1976]

A few on Great Western Railway metals:

Gobowen for Oswestry - still evident with the traditional GWR style station sign on the platform.

Birches & Bilbrook - I believe it is now Bilbrook.

Wellington Telford West - although not really containing "&" or "for", this started out as Wellington (way before the New Town of Telford was even thought of when the Birmingham & Shrewsbury Railway (GWR) was built). I remember during the late 1980s when regular Intercity services ran from London Euston - Shrewsbury that the timetables and the station announcements had it down as Wellington Telford West. I believe it has dropped the "Telford West" bit now.

Handsworth & Smethwick and Winson Green & Soho. Both of these may be pushing the criteria in the opening post slightly in that these have been broadly replaced by Handsworth Booth Street, Soho Benson Road and Winson Green Outer Circle on the Midland Metro tramline section of the Birmingham & Shrewsbury Railway.

 

[OwlMan]

Berkswell opened as Docker's Lane in 1844, changed to Berkswell on 1 January 1853, then to Berkswell & Balsall Common on 1 February 1928 before reverting to Berkswell again in about 1960.
Danzey use to be Danzy for Tanworth. Wythall used to be Grimes Hill & Wythall

 

[The Crab]

There used to be "Carlton & Netherfield for Gedling & Colwick" which now either Carlton or Netherfield.

 

[xotGD]

Alfreton (& Mansfield Parkway)

 

[gg1]

Duddeston was originally named Vauxhall, later renamed Vauxhall & Duddeston before being renamed again to it's current name.

 

[iain-j]

Prestonpans used to be Prestonpans for Tranent.

 

[159]

Haddenham & Thame Parkway

 

[route:oxford]

Practically every station in Scotland has one.

The real station name, followed by the made-up name in a dead language.

 

[noddingdonkey]

+-------------------------------+
| Shaw & Crompton               |
+-------------------------------+

This is now Metrolink, does that count?