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New Stockport to Macclesfield contract to replace services 392, 393 and P1 has been awarded to Selwyns who will run it as services 391 and 392.
 
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Is that affecting both Arriva's commercial service and MCT's subsidised one?
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It's Arriva commercial service that's been cancelled but I'm pretty sure TfGM only decided to divert the 18 contracted service to Altrincham so that it was consistent with the daytime commercial service.
 
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New Saddleworth bus registration:

PC0004977/4 Registered
NEXUS MOVE LTD
Route: Chapel Road, Greenfield, Oldham to Denshaw Bus Terminus, Denshaw, Oldham via Uppermill, Diggle, Dobcross, Delph
Service number: 356
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 09 Apr 2018
 
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New MCT registrations. Although at least one of the new routes appear to be revised existing routes with a new service number.

PC0005332/123 Registered
MANCHESTER COMMUNITY TRANSPORT LIMITED
Route: GEE CROSS APETHORN LANE to ASHTON BUS STATION via STALYBRIDGE, HYDE
Service number: 389
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 08 Apr 2018

PC0005332/119 Registered
MANCHESTER COMMUNITY TRANSPORT LIMITED
Route: ASHTON BUS STATION to ASHTON BUS STATION via WATERLOO, WILSHAW LANE
Service number: 338
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 08 Apr 2018

PC0005332/117 Registered
MANCHESTER COMMUNITY TRANSPORT LIMITED
Route: ASHTON BUS STATION to ASHTON BUS STATION via SMALLSHAW
Service number: 332
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 08 Apr 2018

PC0005332/116 Registered
MANCHESTER COMMUNITY TRANSPORT LIMITED
Route: GLOSSOP TOWN CENTRE to ASHTON BUS STATION via STALYBRIDGE
Service number: 237
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 08 Apr 2018

PC0005332/113 Registered
MANCHESTER COMMUNITY TRANSPORT LIMITED
Route: FARMER'S ARMS, SIMISTER LANE, SIMISTER to MANCHESTER, SHUDEHILL INTERCHANGE via SEDGLEY PARK HIGHER BROUGHTON
Service number: 96
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 08 Apr 2018

PC0005332/111 Registered
MANCHESTER COMMUNITY TRANSPORT LIMITED
Route: ASHTON BUS STATION to ASHTON BUS STATION via HAZELHURST
Service number: 39
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 08 Apr 2018

So we're still waiting to hear who has the new Altrincham to Manchester Airport contract (both MCT and Arriva have cancelled their existing 288 registrations.)
 
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35 Warrington - Little Bollington - Altrincham service to be withdrawn following withdrawal of both Cheshire East and TfGM subsides.
 
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35 Warrington - Little Bollington - Altrincham service to be withdrawn following withdrawal of both Cheshire East and TfGM subsides.
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I'm not surprised - the 35 is pretty much a fresh air special with nobody boarding or alghting between Bowdon and Lymm in my experience of it.
 
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D&G Bus to take over the 288 service on 8th April. The Viewing Park is to get 2 hourly service at the weekend and evening Altrincham bound journeys to serve the Freight Centre with all weekday services and some weekend services serving Airport City.
 
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Major changes in April, load of routes withdrawn, curtailed or rerouted

Withdrawn
  • FIRST 88 Manchester - Monsall - Moston Vale - Charlestown
  • STAGECOACH 169 Gorton - Levenshulme - Southern Cemetery, Service
  • STAGECOACH 313 Stockport - Cheadle Hulme - Grove Lane, late evening journeys
  • FIRST 575 Bolton - Horwich, Old Lord’s Estate, Daily daytime including evenings
  • ARRIVA 18: Altrincham - Sale - Stretford - Trafford Centre
  • STAGECOACH 82N: Manchester-Hollinwood - Oldham (Lees) night bus
  • HOWARDS TRAVEL 200: Wilmslow - Manchester Airport - Runway Park.
  • STAGECOACH 237N: Manchester - Ashton New Road - Ashton - Glossop: night bus
  • HOWARDS TRAVEL 289 Altrincham - Northwich
  • PMH Motors Ltd 352: Wigan - Winstanley College Six college day services
  • FIRST 468: Tottington - Bury - Jericho Monday to Saturday daytime service
  • FIRST 571/572 Bolton - Great Lever Circulars, daily daytime service
  • HIGH PEAK P1 Middlewood - Poynton - Hazel Grove, Cheshire East subsidised service
  • Subsidised 280

Curtailed
  • Slashed services: STAGECOACH 231 Manchester - Clayton - Droylsden - Littlemoss - Tameside General - Ashton. Sunday services reduced from half-hourly to hourly, plus route curtailment, due to withdrawal of taxpayer funding.
  • Slashed services: STAGECOACH 658 Higher Folds - Leigh - Platt Bridge - Wigan. Four journeys cut
  • Curtailed route: DIAMOND BUS 695, Leigh - Astley - Walkden - Little Hulton - Royal Bolton Hospital Farnworth. Mon-Sat hourly daytime services to operate between Leigh and Royal Bolton Hospital only.
  • Curtailed frequency: ARRIVA 19/19A, Altrincham - Sale - Stretford - Trafford Centre. Mon-Sat daytime frequency reduced from every 20 minutes to every 30 minutes
  • Curtailed route: FIRST: 41 Manchester - West Didsbury - Sale - Altrincham. Commercial extension through to Altrincham withdrawn by First
  • Curtailed frequency: D & G Bus 88: Altrincham - Wilmslow - Knutsford. Frequency reduced from every 30 minutes to every hour from April 1
  • Curtailed frequency: FIRST 350 Ashton - Tameside Hospital - Mossley - Uppermill - Delph - Oldham. Between Ashton and Micklehurst reduced from every 12 to every 15 minutes
  • Slashed services: STAGECOACH 374 Stockport - Davenport - Hazel Grove. First and last Saturday journey withdrawn
  • Curtailed route: ROSSENDALE TRANSPORT 484: Bury-Brandlesholme - Holcombe Brook - Ramsbottom - Edenfield - Accrington. Service curtailed to operate Bury to Ramsbottom only
  • Slashed services: STAGECOACH 540 Wigan - Hindley - Castle Hill - Westhoughton - Bolton. Five journeys cut
  • Slashed services: STAGEOCACH 631/632 Wigan - Highfield Grange - Marus Bridge Circulars. Five services withdrawn
  • Curtailed route: TRANSEV X41 Blackburn - Prestwich - Manchester: Route curtailed to operate between Accrington and Manchester only
  • Curtailed route: FIRST V1 Manchester Royal Infirmary - Princess Street - Pendleton Church - Tyldesley: Three journeys cutailed to cut out MRI
  • Slashed services: 260, Sale, Partingon. Two services cut
  • Slashed services: 261 Sale, Ashton West. One service cut
  • slashed services: 262 Sale, Ashton on Mersey, Two services cut
  • Slashed services: 284 Altrincham, Hale circle, One service cut
  • Curtailed frequency: DIAMOND BUS 276, Trafford General Hospital - Stretford - Chorlton - Withington. Cut to run 10am-3pm instead of current 9.30am- 5.30pm
  • Slashed service: DIAMOND 293 Trafford Park, 6.06pm service cut

Rerouted, Increased in frequency
  • Rerouted to cover cuts: Subsidised 245 Altrincham - Sale - Stretford - Trafford Centre. To travel via Ashton to make up for 18 withdrawal
  • Routed to cover cuts: Subsidised 172 Newton Heath - Openshaw - Gorton - Ryder Brow - Levenshulme - Southern Cemetery. Reroute via Burnage Lane, Albert Road and Barlow Road
  • Boosted to cover cuts: STAGECOACH 112: Manchester - Harpurhey - Moston - Greengates - Middleton. Mon-Sat daytime frequency increased from every 20 - every 15 minutes (partial replacement of 114)
  • Boosted to cover cuts: D&G 130: 130 Macclesfield - Wilmslow - Manchester Airport. Re-routed at Wilmslow to run via Styal to Manchester Airport
  • Boosted to cover cuts: STAGECOACH 219N: Manchester - Ashton Old Road - Ashton - Glossop. Last trip extended to Glossop to replace withdrawn 237N.
  • Boosted to cover cuts: 245: ARRIVA: Altrincham - Sale - Stretford - Trafford Centre. Rerouted to run via service 19 route via Ashton on Mersey to provide combined 15 minute services between Sale, Altrincham via Ashton
  • Boosted to cover cuts: ROSSO 469 Bury- Tottington. Extra early morning, mid-afternoon and early evening journeys, increased frequency on Saturdays.
  • Boosted to cover cuts: ROSSO 481, Haslingden - Helmshore - Bury. Monday to Saturday service extended to Bury and re-numbered 481 (to cover loss of 484)
  • Boosted to cover cuts: DIAMOND BUS 278 Manchester - Stretford - Sale - Wythenshawe - Withington - Levenshulme - Reddish. Rerouted to serve Ladybarn estate which is no longer serviced by the 179. Adjustment means the removal of two services which cover Wythenshawe Hospital
  • Rerouted to cover cuts: 281 Altrincham - Sale. Re-routed via Atlantic Street in both directions to cover loss of 280
  • STAGECOACH A168: Ashton - Droylsden - Gorton - Levenshulme - Chorlton. Daytime frequency increased from every 30 to every 20 minutes
  • FIRST 181/182: Manchester - Chadderton - Shaw: 182 gets six extra early morning services
  • ROSSO 467 Bury - Daniel Fold - Rochdale: Two extra services
  • ROSSO 468 Bury - Cutgate - Rochdale: 10 extra services
  • Route extension: STAGECOACH 600/601 Leigh - Ashton in Makerfield - Bryn - Wigan, 11pm journey from Leigh to Ashton-In-Makerfield extended to Wigan
  • Boosted services: FIRST V1 MRI - Princess Street - Pendleton Church - Tyldesley: 11 extra services
New Routes

  • VISION 571/572 Bolton - Great Lever Circulars: daily daytime service introduced
  • JIM STONES COACHES 587: Leigh - Butts Bridge - Glazebery - Culcheth - Twiss Green: Commercial intro of Monday-Saturday service
  • DIAMOND BUS 575, Bolton - Horwich, Old Lord’s Estate, daily daytime service introduced
  • ARRIVA 576 Bolton - Horwich, Mon-Sat daytime service half-hourly
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...r-news/33-bus-services-cut-curtailed-14371157
 
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Statto said:
Rerouted to cover cuts: 281 Altrincham - Sale. Re-routed via Atlantic Street in both directions to cover loss of 280
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I remember hearing of a 746 minibus service that once used Atlantic Street many years ago as far as the last road on the left, where it terminated, which served the people in the new offices there, but I am intruiged as to the exact route of this 281 service from Altrincham to Sale that will use Atlantic Street. What is the full roads coverage of the new route that is to be used?
 
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Statto said:
Major changes in April, load of routes withdrawn, curtailed or rerouted

Withdrawn
  • STAGECOACH 169 Gorton - Levenshulme - Southern Cemetery, Service
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...r-news/33-bus-services-cut-curtailed-14371157
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I'm surprised at the complete withdrawal of this long-established route (formerly 19) that used to run from West Didsbury to Droylsden via Belle Vue. I remember using it in 1969 to travel to Belle Vue zoo using 1 of the (then new) Mancunian buses.
 
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That list that Statto posted isn't quite right. For example

1) The 19 doesn't go to the Trafford Centre (it's Wythenshawe to Altrincham), and there is no 19A
2) The change to the 695 (Leigh to Farnworth) is temporary, caused by the redevelopment of Farnworth bus station
3) The change to the 112 (Piccadilly to Middleton) makes reference to the withdrawal of the 114 (Piccadilly to Alkrington), but there is no other mention of the 114 being withdrawn
4) I'm pretty sure the 41 Altrincham services are subsidised throughout, given that there are some commercial runs as far as Sale in the early evenings after the subsidised service starts
 
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gnolife said:
That list that Statto posted isn't quite right. For example

1) The 19 doesn't go to the Trafford Centre (it's Wythenshawe to Altrincham), and there is no 19A
2) The change to the 695 (Leigh to Farnworth) is temporary, caused by the redevelopment of Farnworth bus station
3) The change to the 112 (Piccadilly to Middleton) makes reference to the withdrawal of the 114 (Piccadilly to Alkrington), but there is no other mention of the 114 being withdrawn
4) I'm pretty sure the 41 Altrincham services are subsidised throughout, given that there are some commercial runs as far as Sale in the early evenings after the subsidised service starts
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They are from the MEN though, so bound to be errors, they have the V1 running to Tyldesley not Leigh, & can't find the changes on TGFM site.
 
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Remember the M.E.N.s transport reporter goes to TfGM meetings, gets bored after 5 minutes and starts playing on her phone. Notice the absence of the new Selwyns 391/392 (despite mentioning the P1), the Network Warrington changes in the Altrincham area and that the 288 will be re-routed and re-timed so that it interworks with the remaining 88 services and serves Airport City and the Viewing Park (at the weekend.)
 
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jcollins said:
Remember the M.E.N.s transport reporter goes to TfGM meetings, gets bored after 5 minutes and starts playing on her phone. Notice the absence of the new Selwyns 391/392 (despite mentioning the P1), the Network Warrington changes in the Altrincham area and that the 288 will be re-routed and re-timed so that it interworks with the remaining 88 services and serves Airport City and the Viewing Park (at the weekend.)
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Wow, the M.E.N. has a transport reporter! :D:D:D:D
 
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Intrigued by First throwing in the towel on the 575 (Bolton-Horwich). They've (and GM Buses before them) fought brutally for the route on several occasions - competing with Blue Bus 1991-2005, thence Arriva after their takeover of Blue Bus. Peak was when the route got to a combined (and, frankly, unsustainable) 14 buses per hour (8 First, 6 Blue Bus) in 2003 to try and grab each others' passengers - although the "equilibrium" always settled to be 4+4.

And Stagecoach have been putting up a fight for Horwich traffic on the 125/6 for 15 years now.

But I've never understood why a greater effort has never been made to have the 575 serve Middlebrook retail park. A potential big source of demand that is basically ignored, but stops just far enough away to not be convenient.
 
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Ianno87 said:
Intrigued by First throwing in the towel on the 575 (Bolton-Horwich). They've (and GM Buses before them) fought brutally for the route on several occasions - competing with Blue Bus 1991-2005, thence Arriva after their takeover of Blue Bus. Peak was when the route got to a combined (and, frankly, unsustainable) 14 buses per hour (8 First, 6 Blue Bus) in 2003 to try and grab each others' passengers - although the "equilibrium" always settled to be 4+4.

And Stagecoach have been putting up a fight for Horwich traffic on the 125/6 for 15 years now.

But I've never understood why a greater effort has never been made to have the 575 serve Middlebrook retail park. A potential big source of demand that is basically ignored, but stops just far enough away to not be convenient.
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Far enough away to inconvenience the base market of people wanting to get straight to Bolton, though. I must admit, I don't know much about Middlebrook in terms of the shops anyway, but I'm guessing it has plentiful free parking, so it would always be difficult to compete with that.
 
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Been a bus crash in Manchester City Centre.
Up to 15 people were injured in a rush-hour collision between two double-decker buses in Manchester city centre.

Police were called to the crash at the junction of Aytoun Street and Minshull Street at about 07:30 GMT.

Greater Manchester Police said up to 14 people, including both drivers, had minor injuries, while another person had more serious, but not life-threatening, injuries.

North West Ambulance Service said two people were taken to hospital.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-43313696
 
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jcollins said:
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It looks like one bus crashed in to the back of another in queuing traffic.
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A bit presumptive. The hybrid bus looks like it was positioned on or almost on the bus stop opposite Piccadilly Place. The MMC has then hit the back of it - probably at slow speed. The first question might be whether the hybrid had either braked hard on reaching the stop, or whether it had started to pull away from the stop, but had to stop abruptly again.
 
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A bit presumptive. The hybrid bus looks like it was positioned on or almost on the bus stop opposite Piccadilly Place. The MMC has then hit the back of it - probably at slow speed. The first question might be whether the hybrid had either braked hard on reaching the stop, or whether it had started to pull away from the stop, but had to stop abruptly again.
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If buses were queuing to get in to bus stops then it's still queuing traffic.
 
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jcollins said:
If buses were queuing to get in to bus stops then it's still queuing traffic.
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IF that's the case then technically yes, but having alighted at that stop many, many times, I can think of many reasons why the hybrid might have had to brake sharply, and they don't assume another bus in front. Let's not assume that no other non-pcv (motorised or not!) was at least partly to blame.
 
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